vg|52nd EBTC-BBO2,OPEN-RR5,I,17,32,ENGLAND,0,NETHERLANDS,0|
rs|4SE=,4SE=,4SS-1,4SN=,4SW=,3NW+1,3DE+1,3DE=,4SS+1,4SS+1,3SW-1,2HS+2,4HS+2,6DS=,4SW=,4SW=,4HS+1,4HN+1,3NE+2,3NW+2,2SE+1,1NS+2,3NN-1,1NN+1,4HS=,2HN+2,3NN-2,3HN-2,5CS=,2HEx-1,1NW-1,1NW-1|
pn|ROBSON,DE WIJS,FORRESTER,MULLER,VERHEES Jr,HACKETT,VAN PROOIJ,HACKETT|pg||
qx|o17|st||md|3S985HT86DAT853CK5,SA76HKJ93D62CQ832,S3HQ7542DKJ97CA76,SKQJT42HADQ4CJT94|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2H!|nt|vugraphzct: hi all|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@S = 10-15, NOT 5+@H|pg||
mb|d|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|hA|pg||
nt|ahollan1: yes -- i have the Robson-Forrester goodies|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|s6|pc|s3|pg||
nt|ahollan1: thanks to Peter Crouch|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|h5|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|sA|nt|ahollan1: 2@H = [2M-1]  3-fit, 9-11 HCP|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|d4|pc|h8|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c17|st||md|3S985HT86DAT853CK5,SA76HKJ93D62CQ832,S3HQ7542DKJ97CA76,SKQJT42HADQ4CJT94|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S!|mb|d|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h6|pc|h9|pc|h2|pc|hA|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|s3|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s8|pc|s7|pc|h4|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|h5|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|d4|pc|h8|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o18|st||md|4SKQT2H62DA2CA9642,S7653H94D87543C75,SAJ98HQ875DJ9CKT3,S4HAKJT3DKQT6CQJ8|sv|n|mb|1C!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = good 15+|pg||
nt|Walddk2:  Welcome to Warren Spector.|pg||
mb|1D!|nt|Aurora:  hello all :) Live video from this table here on Channel 3: http://livebridge.net/youtube/|pg||
nt|warrens:  hi all|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@D = a) 0-8 HCP  b) 9+ HCP 0-1 Controls [A=2 K=1] but not 9+ 1+ BAL  [2@D]|pg||
nt|Aurora:  Running scores for this table - Open A: http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=1023&qshowflag=1|pg||
nt|Aurora:  All results here: http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/results.htm|pg||
mb|d|an|alerted|nt|warrens:  X by Forrester here probably for the majors|pg||
nt|ahollan1: my guess   DBL = @H & @S|pg||
mb|1H|nt|warrens:  if so, Robson has a strong invite in @s's|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i think Rob Helle now lives in Poland|pg||
nt|ahollan1: wijs-muller = Tarzan|pg||
nt|ahollan1: sound it out   and think  very old movies|pg||
nt|ahollan1: sorry Roland -- i hit enter just as you started talking|pg||
nt|warrens:  Robson might cue-bid 2@h if that's clear|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Johnny Weisssmuller  was olympic swimmer before he was Tarzan|pg||
nt|ahollan1: confirmed in their CC    Forrester's DBL was @H & @S|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: the pure yarbourough  [west hand]  is very unfrequent -- unless it is me and i'm playing for money|pg||
pc|c7|mc|13|nt|vugraphzct: sry, mistake|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i think last 2-3 years  Muller has much better pace of play|pg||
nt|ahollan1: voice commentary of our room -- putting Muller at top of list of slow players|pg||
nt|vugraphzct: i'll write the play|pg||
nt|vugraphzct: sry once again|pg||
nt|vugraphzct: still thinking about the lead|pg||
nt|vugraphzct: and still discussing their leads|pg||
nt|vugraphzct: small J ace|pg||
nt|ahollan1: EW  leads 3rd/low   carding  udca and odd/even discard|pg||
nt|vugraphzct: and thinking again|pg||
nt|vugraphzct: @c4|pg||
nt|vugraphzct: 5|pg||
nt|vugraphzct: k|pg||
nt|vugraphzct: @c|pg||
nt|vugraphzct: w discaring small @H|pg||
nt|vugraphzct: k@d|pg||
nt|vugraphzct: @da|pg||
nt|vugraphzct: @s2|pg||
nt|ahollan1: top page for scores/hand results/bulletins/etc   http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/results.htm|pg||
nt|vugraphzct: to the ace|pg||
nt|vugraphzct: @s|pg||
nt|vugraphzct: @c 6|pg||
nt|ahollan1: live video of our table   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmV2e7ncf6A|pg||
nt|ahollan1: facing us   left: Bauke Muller  right: Andrew Robson|pg||
nt|vugraphzct: @s6|pg||
nt|vugraphzct: 9@s|pg||
nt|vugraphzct: 10@h|pg||
nt|vugraphzct: j@d|pg||
nt|vugraphzct: q|pg||
nt|vugraphzct: a@h|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 4@S from NORTH   maybe @C lead?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: east  switched to @C  and van Prooijen picked up the suit|pg||
nt|ahollan1: for no losers|pg||
nt|vugraphzct: E thinking|pg||
nt|ahollan1: top level for all video   http://livebridge.net/youtube/|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i don't remember which channel i selected to get to our table |pg||
nt|ahollan1: Traian set it up so that each channel is either  open tables or closed tables|pg||
nt|ahollan1: from live feed  which has a bit of a delay   looks like they've played 5 or 6 tricks|pg||
nt|vugraphzct: ew took 1@c, 1@h and a @d|pg||
nt|vugraphzct: e still thinking with the k@h|pg||
nt|vugraphzct: and he played it|pg||
pg||
qx|c18|st||md|4SKQT2H62DA2CA9642,S7653H94D87543C75,SAJ98HQ875DJ9CKT3,S4HAKJT3DKQT6CQJ8|sv|n|mb|1H|mb|1N|an|4!S+longer minor|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|h5|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|d9|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cK|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|s5|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|dT|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o19|st||md|1SK953H965DQT95C32,SJ872H743DAJCA976,S4HA82DK832CQJT54,SAQT6HKQJTD764CK8|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|nt|ahollan1: 1@C=2+|pg||
nt|vugraphzct: sry once again|pg||
mb|d|nt|runnerup:  this must be sayed Faroe Island 23 Denmark 0 after 2 boards  :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@C   a) 5+@C  b) 4@C(441), <17 [else 2@D]  c) 2+@C, BAL 11-14/18-19|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cQ|nt|ahollan1: Faroe Islands beat Poland last match|pg||
nt|ahollan1: they've been doing quite well so far|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Faroe  currently 6th place|pg||
nt|ahollan1: England 4th    Netherlands 10th|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|cA|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d4|pg||
pc|s7|pc|c5|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg||
nt|ahollan1: this first Round Robin has  2 groups of 18 teams    the top 9 from each qualify for RR2|pg||
nt|vugraphzct: after round robin, first 9 qualify for the final group. You carry over only vps taken against winning 9 teams|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h9|pc|h4|pc|hA|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pg||
nt|ahollan1: actually  there are additional VPs carried into RR2  based on ranking against the non-qualifiers from RR1|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 9th gets 0 VPs   8th  +2 VPs  7th  +4 VPs , etc|pg||
nt|ahollan1: very confusing  had to read the conditions of contest  multiple times before i understood|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|cT|pc|cK|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i don't recall if they did that in 2012 or not|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but i know this is first time matches are 16 boards instead of 20|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|s8|pc|d8|pg||
mc|10|nt|pelu:  It has been 16 in Senior and Lady |pg||
pg||
qx|c19|st||md|1SK953H965DQT95C32,SJ872H743DAJCA976,S4HA82DK832CQJT54,SAQT6HKQJTD764CK8|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D!|mb|d!|mb|1H!|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c7|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|hA|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|cA|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg||
pc|sJ|mc|10|pg||
qx|o20|st||md|2SK63HAT76D43CJ742,SAQ54HKJ982DK7CQ6,SJ72HQ543DJ85CAK3,ST98HDAQT962CT985|sv|b|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|3D!|nt|warrens:  3NT has a chance here|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@H = 10-15 hcp, could have 5-8@S !!!!|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 3@D = preempt|pg||
nt|warrens:  it's a vulnerable 3@d, so West considering 3NT|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3@D used to be a mixed raise -- recent change to preempt, so i'm not sure about minimum holdings|pg||
nt|pelu:  I am told that only Seniors play 16 boards - the old men didnt have stamina for 20 boards :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: if senior commentators can handle that many boards ......|pg||
nt|pelu:  but now all 3 groups 16|pg||
nt|vugraphzct: w saying that it is recently changed|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c6|nt|ahollan1: Ivan -- i wouldn't lie to you :)|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c5|pg||
nt|vugraphzct: :)|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Simon de Wijs has been VERY helpful answering my system questions|pg||
pc|h4|nt|ahollan1: i got to meet them face-to-face at the ACBL  Fall NABC last November/December|pg||
nt|ahollan1: very nice guys|pg||
pc|d2|pc|h7|pc|h2|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c7|pc|d7|pc|c3|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|d6|pc|h6|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cJ|pc|dK|pc|h5|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hQ|nt|ahollan1: hmmm   i didn't imagine the combination of ruff and NOT ruffing finesse in @C|pg||
pc|dT|pc|hT|pg||
nt|ahollan1: thought either  discard @S  or  take ruffing finesse in @C|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|s4|pc|d5|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pg||
nt|warrens:  nicely played for 2 overtricks|pg||
nt|warrens:  I mean 1|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|s7|pc|d9|pc|hA|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d4|pc|s5|mc|10|pg||
qx|c20|st||md|2SK63HAT76D43CJ742,SAQ54HKJ982DK7CQ6,SJ72HQ543DJ85CAK3,ST98HDAQT962CT985|sv|b|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|3C!|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c4|pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|h3|pc|s8|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|sT|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|s9|pc|h6|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg||
pc|dQ|mc|9|pg||
qx|o21|st||md|3SA976H5DKJ43CT865,S32HQJT6DA975CQ92,SKQT4HAK742DTCAJ4,SJ85H983DQ862CK73|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: extra points for style  on this line i never imagined|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: get ready to bookmark    top level page for results   http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/results.htm|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|warrens:  the splinter stops any interest in slam|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s6|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dA|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg||
nt|ahollan1: @S in in other room too   but Verhees won @S9 and started on @H|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|d3|pc|hT|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|s7|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|c4|pc|d6|pg||
mc|10|nt|vugraphzct: he claimed 10, then changed his mind|pg||
nt|vugraphzct: ops agreed with 11|pg||
pg||
qx|c21|st||md|3SA976H5DKJ43CT865,S32HQJT6DA975CQ92,SKQT4HAK742DTCAJ4,SJ85H983DQ862CK73|sv|n|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1S!|mb|p|mb|1N!|mb|p|mb|2H!|mb|p|mb|2S|an|alerted|mb|p|mb|3S!|mb|p|mb|4D!|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|s9|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|s7|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|dT|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|c4|pc|d2|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|s6|pc|hT|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o22|st||md|4SA3HQJT964D98CAJT,SQJ965HA87D542C72,S87HK3DAJT73CQ854,SKT42H52DKQ6CK963|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|d|mb|2H|mb|3S|nt|ahollan1: 1N = 5-good 11, NF|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s8|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|ahollan1: i'm having a hard time understanding 3@S rather than 2@S|pg||
nt|ahollan1: since Muller is passed hand|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but maybe Forrester bids again and NS find 4@H?|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|hK|pc|h5|pg||
nt|ahollan1: what is frequency of that parlay actually happening?|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|s7|pc|s4|pg||
pc|d2|mc|8|pg||
qx|c22|st||md|4SA3HQJT964D98CAJT,SQJ965HA87D542C72,S87HK3DAJT73CQ854,SKT42H52DKQ6CK963|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1H!|mb|p|mb|1N!|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c7|pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|cT|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|hA|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h8|pc|d3|pc|s2|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|d5|pc|s7|pc|s4|pg||
pc|hT|pc|sQ|pc|d7|pc|sK|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s8|pg||
pc|cA|pc|s6|pc|c8|pc|c9|pg||
pc|h6|pc|sJ|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pg||
pc|d6|pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|dA|pg||
pg||
qx|o23|st||md|1SKHKJ2DAKJ873CT84,SAJ62H64D5CAQ9765,SQ954HAQT875DQT6C,ST873H93D942CKJ32|sv|b|nt|ahollan1: NS use  constructive opening 2@H/@S  nv  8-11  so maybe Forrester should bid 4@H anyway|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: clear cut 1N opener :)|pg||
mb|2H|mb|2S!|nt|ahollan1: 1N strong 14-17|pg||
nt|warrens:  does 2@s show @s's and a minor?|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: delayed 2@S must mean 4@S & longer minor -- i'll see if i have it anywhere in my notes|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphzct: he didnt like to pass 4@h|pg||
nt|vugraphzct: looks like wasnt sure|pg||
pc|d5|nt|warrens:  North could have bid more, but also the 1NT opening made it harder|pg||
nt|swanson:  Using Texas (4-level) transfers in addition to Jacoby, this auction by North should be a slam try.|pg||
nt|Aurora:  Live video from this table here on Channel 3: http://livebridge.net/youtube/|pg||
nt|Aurora:  Running scores for this table - Open B: http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=1024&qshowflag=1|pg||
mc|12|nt|swanson:  But North might have bid 4@C over 2@S to show short clubs.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1N gets full credit for not even coming close to bidding slam|pg||
pg||
qx|c23|st||md|1SKHKJ2DAKJ873CT84,SAJ62H64D5CAQ9765,SQ954HAQT875DQT6C,ST873H93D942CKJ32|sv|b|mb|1D!|mb|2C|mb|2D!|an|!H|mb|3C|mb|4H|mb|4S|mb|5C|an|alerted|mb|p|mb|5D!|mb|p|mb|5H!|mb|p|mb|6D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|sK|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|o24|st||md|2ST943H52DJTCQT842,SAKQ86HT76DQ843C6,S2HAQJ983D9762CK5,SJ75HK4DAK5CAJ973|sv|o|nt|swanson:  South has a bit of a problem describing this hand.  NT is OK by me.|pg||
mb|1S|nt|swanson:  1NT|pg||
mb|3H|nt|ahollan1: 1@S = 10-15   in 1st/2nd seat DENIES 5+@H|pg||
mb|4C!|nt|warrens:  another slam hand|pg||
nt|ahollan1: John   NS use  South African Texas over 1N  [4@C=@H]   but i'm not sure if it immediatley describes slam interest|pg||
mb|4H|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|warrens:  should only make 5, can't get rid of the last @d|pg||
nt|swanson:  Interesting decision by South to stick his next out with 4@H.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|h6|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c6|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i'm not sure about the alert of 4@C|pg||
nt|swanson:  The value would seem to be that to convince one of the opponents that his partner is short in the suit.|pg||
nt|swanson:  Maybe 4@C implies a spade fit?|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg||
pc|sK|pc|h8|pc|s7|pc|s4|pg||
nt|ahollan1: that's my only guess - but seems like very small frequency of occurence|pg||
pc|s6|pc|h9|pc|sJ|pc|s9|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|s8|pc|cK|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|hJ|pc|c7|pc|sT|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|dT|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dJ|pc|d4|pc|d6|pg||
pc|d5|pc|c8|pc|dQ|pc|d7|pg||
mc|10|nt|vugraphzct: 4@c was artifitial slam try|pg||
nt|vugraphzct: 4@s weak|pg||
nt|swanson:  Not easy to understand why declarer didn't ruff the losing heart before pulling the last trump.|pg||
pg||
qx|c24|st||md|2ST943H52DJTCQT842,SAKQ86HT76DQ843C6,S2HAQJ983D9762CK5,SJ75HK4DAK5CAJ973|sv|o|mb|1S|mb|2H|mb|3H!|an|sound raise|mb|p|mb|3S!|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|dT|pc|d4|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h2|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|s6|pc|h9|pc|sJ|pc|s4|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|h3|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|h8|pc|c3|pc|sT|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|cT|pg||
pc|c2|pc|h7|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg||
pc|dK|pc|c4|pc|d3|pc|d7|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c8|pc|s8|pc|hJ|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o25|st||md|3SQT4HKQ742DA932CK,SAK872H5DK764C754,S6HT983DQT8CAQJT9,SJ953HAJ6DJ5C8632|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: ahhhhh   so  4@C = slam try   4@H = @C??|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|2C|mb|3S|nt|swanson:  How dull - North just bid his suit.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|s4|pg||
nt|swanson:  If North was always planning to bid to 4@H after partner's opening, he could use an immediate splinter or bid clubs, then 4@H.|pg||
pc|d6|nt|ahollan1: even if 3rd seat favorable 1@H opener -- can't see a downside to John's plan of bidding higher faster|pg||
nt|ahollan1: with singleton @S in dummy  and  east known to have @S length -- good time for 3rd hand to show suit preference|pg||
nt|ahollan1: with @S5 being the hardest card to read :)|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d5|pc|d2|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but looking at dummy  it just doesn't apply|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|h5|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|h2|nt|ahollan1: nice play by all|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d8|pg||
mc|11|nt|swanson:  There is excellent voice commentary available at this table - get your sound going to take full advantage of the analysis.|pg||
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qx|c25|st||md|3SQT4HKQ742DA932CK,SAK872H5DK764C754,S6HT983DQT8CAQJT9,SJ953HAJ6DJ5C8632|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|cA|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|h5|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s3|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|d2|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c6|pc|d3|pc|c4|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h2|mc|11|pg||
qx|o26|st||md|4S743HK8742DA3CK62,SQJTHAT6DQ5CAT854,S8652HJ93DJ92CQJ7,SAK9HQ5DKT8764C93|sv|b|nt|ahollan1: actually  strange to have John typing when voice available|pg||
mb|1D!|an|2+|mb|1H|mb|2S!|nt|ahollan1: for those familiar with Tarzan Precision -- one of biggest changes in last year  is  1@D/1N  vul has changed|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@D = [VUL]  a) 11-15, 3+@D, unbal  b) 12-14, BAL, 2+@D|pg||
mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|ahollan1: 2@S = TRF 2N, INV+, stop @H|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: Tarzan 2@D opener  and Irish version of Carrot/Swedish Club  = Precision 2@D   3-suit, short @D|pg||
pc|c6|nt|ahollan1: seeing an explosion of number of pairs that have a mechanism to decide which player declares NT after interference|pg||
nt|ahollan1: @C6 lead makes me think about Mollo's  Papa the Greek -- it being the most misleading card he could find to lead|pg||
nt|swanson:  Declarer is perhaps thinking of rising with the club ace, and getting after diamonds immediately - not wanting a heart shift.|pg||
nt|swanson:  The question being whether clubs or hearts or more dangerous should be have to lose a couple diamonds.|pg||
nt|vugraphzct: http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/results.htm|pg||
nt|swanson:  Do you think there is any soccer fan who has his TV on with the bridge in the background?|pg||
nt|vugraphzct: http://livebridge.net/youtube/|pg||
nt|swanson:  Yes - and Wimbledon is starting (for those o us who don't understand futbol.|pg||
nt|vugraphzct: I would if i could.|pg||
nt|vugraphzct: Lucky that Cro plays at 10 pm|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|c3|pg||
pc|h3|nt|swanson:  Ducking the club seems like the percentage play.  It is possible to take 9 tricks without the diamond suit.|pg||
pc|h5|nt|swanson:  North might (should have started with @H9, unblocking.|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hT|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s6|nt|ahollan1: seemse counterintuitive to play 9 looking at AT in dummy|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s4|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but after @D to Q  @D back to Ace   notice that @HK sets up suit -- but it is blocked|pg||
nt|swanson:  If we mention the sports scores, there is  a danger in spoiling some kibitzers plan of recording the game (to be viewed later) while watching the bridge.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: sick thing -- John probably figures that out AT THE TABLE  faster than I work it out looking at all the cards|pg||
nt|ahollan1: all the golf tournaments ended yesterday -- no idea what other sports you're referring to|pg||
nt|swanson:  This is one of the deals where the defense has no chance, but declarer doesn't know it.|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|s3|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg||
nt|ahollan1: earlier in the year  Kit Woolsey was doing analysis of a 3N contract  great comment was  "this is the type of hand where declarer doesn't have entries to either hand"|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c26|st||md|4S743HK8742DA3CK62,SQJTHAT6DQ5CAT854,S8652HJ93DJ92CQJ7,SAK9HQ5DKT8764C93|sv|b|mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|2C!|an|F1|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H!|mb|p!|an|lead something else than !H|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h6|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|dA|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o27|st||md|1SAJHAQ84DJ95CA973,S9862HKT965DA64CT,SQT4HJ32DQT87CQ64,SK753H7DK32CKJ852|sv|o|mb|1N|mb|2C!|an|M|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: sorry i doubted deWijs   was going to predict 1N-all pass|pg||
mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|an|G try|nt|swanson:  In the old days one would shudder at the thought of entering the auction with the West cards after a 1NT opening.  But we have found that with nine cards is two suits and a modicum of high cards it is the percentage action.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@D ask  better/longer     then correct to 2@S shows hand that is better than immediate 2@S  but weaker than bidding higher|pg||
nt|swanson:  I expect North to bid 2NT now.|pg||
mb|p|nt|swanson:  So much for my expectations.|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h8|nt|ahollan1: John -- do you think any of these players are old enough to remember delayed 2N being natural?|pg||
nt|swanson:  What is the full format for this championship?  ROund-robin and then OK, as in the world championships?|pg||
nt|swanson:  KO|pg||
nt|vugraphzct: final group with 18 teams|pg||
nt|ahollan1: starts  2 groups of 18  round robin   qualifies  top 9 from each group|pg||
nt|vugraphzct: you play other 8|pg||
nt|swanson:  thanks|pg||
nt|ahollan1: then 2nd "round robin"  playing against teams from the other group|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h2|pg||
nt|ahollan1: top 6 countries qualify for 2015 Bermuda Bowl|pg||
pc|cT|nt|ahollan1: no KO|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg||
nt|ahollan1: sorry  Ivan   was typing without seeing your input|pg||
nt|ahollan1: carryover is interesting too John|pg||
nt|vugraphzct: :)|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|s3|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg||
nt|swanson:  North has a bunch of slow winners in notrump - not much defense against a suit contract.  The problem with bidding a late 2NT is that partner will surely think it is for takeout.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: full carryover of VPs won against other qualifiers  and  from ranking of VPs won against non-qualifiers  add  VP according to  9th place = 0   8th place = 2  7th = 4, etc|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c3|pc|h6|pc|c4|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|s8|pc|c6|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|s5|pc|h4|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|s9|pc|sT|pg||
mc|10|nt|swanson:  My preference in these auction is to use double as "I have a 2NT bid, but you can pass if you feel strongly about it", and 2NT means "I want you to bid a minor, but you can pass if you feel strongly about it."|pg||
pg||
qx|c27|st||md|1SAJHAQ84DJ95CA973,S9862HKT965DA64CT,SQT4HJ32DQT87CQ64,SK753H7DK32CKJ852|sv|o|mb|1N|an|14-16|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hT|pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d6|pc|d7|pc|d2|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|dK|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d8|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|c8|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|c2|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|h6|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s3|pc|c7|pc|s6|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|cT|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|c6|pc|s5|pg||
pc|c9|pc|s8|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg||
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qx|o28|st||md|2SQ3HA986DJ7CKQ983,S752HJ753DT653CT4,SAT9HT2DQ84CAJ765,SKJ864HKQ4DAK92C2|sv|n|nt|vugraphzct: 9|pg||
nt|swanson:  (As North)|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1S|nt|ahollan1: that makes more sense   i think default now is delayed 2N = minors|pg||
mb|d|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = a) 5+@C  b) 4@C(441), <17 [else 2@D]  c) 2+@C, BAL 11-14/18-19|pg||
nt|ahollan1: NS CC says  negative dbl => 7@H|pg||
mb|3S!|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|swanson:  I don't like double here - dont want  partner sitting.  I like 2NT (note my idea about 2NT and double on previous deal).|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: van Prooijen did not open north hand with nebulous 1@D   i thought he would since 1N rebid would be 11-13|pg||
pc|dA|nt|ahollan1: but must not like hand quality combined with vul|pg||
pc|d7|nt|ahollan1: he's playing 1N|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d4|pg||
nt|ahollan1: verhees never bid with south hand  [Raptor 1N overcalls don't apply over 3rd seat opener]|pg||
pc|hK|nt|swanson:  Declarer can win the second heart and lead a third, but West will win and lead a spade.|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg||
nt|ahollan1: @DA asked for reverse attitude in @D   so Muller knew NOT to continue @D|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|hT|pg||
nt|ahollan1: after winning the @HK  seems any non-@S  works --  is that right John?|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|c2|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|cA|nt|ahollan1: but @H3 was encouraging in @H  so  Muller didn't have to guess/peek to see @D could be established|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
pc|c7|nt|swanson:  Is East fatally squeezed on the fifth round of clubs?|pg||
pc|s6|pc|cQ|pc|h7|pg||
pc|c3|pc|s7|pc|cJ|pc|s8|pg||
pc|c6|pc|d2|pc|c8|pc|s5|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|dK|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|s9|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c28|st||md|2SQ3HA986DJ7CKQ983,S752HJ753DT653CT4,SAT9HT2DQ84CAJ765,SKJ864HKQ4DAK92C2|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N!|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|d4|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|d5|pc|d8|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|s9|pc|h4|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|s3|pg||
pc|d9|pc|c3|pc|dT|pc|sT|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|o29|st||md|3SQT5HKQJT54DKJ62C,SA73H82DQ95CKQ965,SK862HA97D3CJ7432,SJ94H63DAT874CAT8|sv|b|nt|swanson:  West has just enough!|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|nt|swanson:  4@H looks like a bit of desperation to me.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: John   do you think the decimal VP scale has affected the way players attack during Round Robin?|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|h4|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s9|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d7|nt|ahollan1: VP scale   http://www.worldbridge.org/Data/Sites/1/media/documents/regulations/WBFVPscales.pdf|pg||
nt|swanson:  I doubt that anyone takes such scoring subtiles in account during the play.|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|h2|nt|ahollan1: this situation/layout  was put in for Peter Lund|pg||
nt|ahollan1: earlier hand he was talking about ducking with ace when dummy leads singleton|pg||
nt|swanson:  with spade 3-3 and the jack onside there are 3 spades, 6, hearts and 1 ruff in dummy for 10 tricks.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in other room  2@D was 10-15 hcp, 5+@H 4+@D|pg||
nt|ahollan1: so this swing again  entirely Robson's doing|pg||
nt|swanson:  Declarer would rather have guessed the diamond and ruffed a couple diamonds in dummy.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: to the plus column this time|pg||
nt|swanson:  Declere can still ruff a couple diamonds, taking the spade finesse late for his 10th trick.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i'm sure he's working through permutations where trump are 3-1 rather than actual 22|pg||
nt|vugraphzct: 15 mins left|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h3|pc|h5|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|sA|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|hT|pg||
nt|ahollan1: other room just finishing up  30|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c29|st||md|3SQT5HKQJT54DKJ62C,SA73H82DQ95CKQ965,SK862HA97D3CJ7432,SJ94H63DAT874CAT8|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|h7|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|h6|pc|hK|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s4|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|sA|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|hA|pc|d4|pg||
pc|s8|pc|c8|pc|d6|pc|c5|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o30|st||md|4SJTHQ98D64CAQT742,SQ96543HK52DJCK63,SK8HA643DAQT92C98,SA72HJT7DK8753CJ5|sv|o|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 3@C anyone?|pg||
mb|1C|mb|2S|mb|d|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = 2+   [see earlier copy/paste]|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|swanson:  I don't really see how one can open the South hand (with a one-level bid) and maintain a confident constructive bidding system.|pg||
nt|swanson:  Better to try 3@C in my view.|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg||
nt|swanson:  Opening 1@C is like pulling your goalie, I suppose.|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c5|pc|c2|nt|ahollan1: too slow Al    i was just going to ask if you talk yourself out of @S lead here|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|s7|mc|7|nt|ahollan1: sick push|pg||
pg||
qx|c30|st||md|4SJTHQ98D64CAQT742,SQ96543HK52DJCK63,SK8HA643DAQT92C98,SA72HJT7DK8753CJ5|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf:  rehi all|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hJ|mc|7|pg||
qx|o31|st||md|1S42H6DAKQ3CAKT843,SAQ963HAT83DJ962C,SKT7HQ742D5CQJ762,SJ85HKJ95DT874C95|sv|n|mb|1C|mb|1S|nt|ahollan1: now THIS is a 1@C opener|pg||
mb|d|mb|2S!|nt|ahollan1: 2@S = weakest raise|pg||
mb|3D|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|nt|vugraphzct: http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/results.htm|pg||
mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|swanson:  I'm a bit surprised the West didn't bid 3@S at this vulnerability.  I guess he remembered his own major suit raise of a couple deals ago.|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|h6|pg||
nt|vugraphzct: N saying he should bid 5 himself|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c31|st||md|1S42H6DAKQ3CAKT843,SAQ963HAT83DJ962C,SKT7HQ742D5CQJ762,SJ85HKJ95DT874C95|sv|n|mb|1C|mb|1S|mb|d|nt|roswolf:  anything could happen here|pg||
mb|2H!|mb|d!|an|forces GF|mb|p|nt|vugraphzcu: sorry server crash|pg||
nt|roswolf:  np|pg||
nt|vugraphzcu: tournament information on: http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/results.htm|pg||
nt|roswolf:  this looks a murky auction already|pg||
nt|roswolf:  strong club opened|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|d8|pg||
pc|h6|nt|roswolf:  blood will flow but whose it is not clear but declarer starts favorite i think|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|h9|pg||
nt|roswolf:  ruff a club and then a low spade!?|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sK|pg||
pc|h4|nt|roswolf:  this saves the overtrick i think|pg||
pc|h5|pc|c3|pc|h8|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|c4|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|sT|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hK|nt|roswolf:  surely not - wow|pg||
pc|c8|pc|hA|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s5|nt|roswolf:  -1 and a great chance missed by the english|pg||
mc|7|nt|ahollan1: but we still won't use this in advertisment FOR  Big 1@C|pg||
pg||
qx|o32|st||md|2SAJ74HT98DKQT7CK2,S983HAQ4DAJCJT754,SQ6HK652D642CQ863,SKT52HJ73D9853CA9|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: final board of the match/day|pg||
nt|vugraphzct: Last one for today|pg||
mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@D = [VUL]  a) 11-15, 3+@D, unbal  b) 12-14, BAL, 2+@D|pg||
nt|ady: seems|pg||
pc|h2|nt|ahollan1: David's arrival means other room finished play|pg||
nt|vugraphzct: first match tomorow at 10 30|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|hQ|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but no score for 32 |pg||
nt|ady: yes    but only 30 hands?|pg||
nt|ady: or 31|pg||
nt|ahollan1: the room crashed|pg||
nt|ahollan1: the other room crashed|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|cA|nt|swanson:  Declarer is looking around to find if he can win any gricks.|pg||
nt|ady: ok    thx|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c6|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hA|nt|ahollan1: they're back up now|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h7|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|d3|pc|s7|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hJ|pc|h9|pc|h4|pg||
pc|h6|pc|d5|nt|swanson:  tricks - what's a 'grick'|pg||
nt|ahollan1: the important thing about gricks --- soap and water clears it up right away|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s3|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d9|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c8|pc|s2|nt|ahollan1: thanks for joining John - I always enjoy it|pg||
mc|6|nt|ahollan1: hope the audience does too|pg||
nt|vugraphzct: bye!|pg||
nt|swanson:  Thanks all.|pg||
nt|swanson:  Does anyone have the link handy for the results?|pg||
nt|swanson:  thanks!|pg||
pg||
qx|c32|st||md|2SAJ74HT98DKQT7CK2,S983HAQ4DAJCJT754,SQ6HK652D642CQ863,SKT52HJ73D9853CA9|sv|e|mb|1C|mb|p|nt|roswolf:  still a plus because of the fine result in the other room|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|ady: late revival for England|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i'm here = other room has finished play|pg||
pc|h2|nt|roswolf:  ok but this looks flat|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h8|pc|h4|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|c3|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c6|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h3|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|h7|pc|s4|pg||
pc|hK|pc|s2|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pg||
nt|ahollan1: scores at  http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/results.htm|pg||
pc|h6|pc|s5|pc|s7|nt|ahollan1: tomorrow's vugraph lineup will be at  http://livebridge.net/bbo/sessions.php?eventid=1024|pg||
pc|s8|pg||
pc|d4|nt|ahollan1: if not already there|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dQ|nt|ady: thx all     bye|pg||
pc|dJ|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d5|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c8|pc|d8|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|c7|pc|s6|pc|d9|pc|dT|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg||
pc|dK|pc|s9|pc|d6|pc|sT|pg||
nt|roswolf:  by3e all|pg||
nt|vugraphzcu: thanks all, see you tomorrow at 10:30 local time|pg||
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