vg|52nd EBTC-BBO4,OPEN-RR17,I,1,16,ITALY,0,WALES,0| rs|3SW+1,3NE=,5DW=,3NW-2,5HW-1,4HW+1,3NN-1,4HN-1,3DS+1,2CN+1,1NW-2,1NS+1,5CN=,3NS-2,5DN-3,4SE-1,3DN=,2SW=,2HE-1,1NE=,1NN-1,1NN-2,3NS+2,3NS+1,2SW+1,2SW=,3NS-2,3NN-3,4SS=,4SS=,3NW+1,3NE+1| pn|SEMENTA,PLACKETT,CIMA,JOURDAIN,F KURBALIJ,VERSACE,SHIELDS,LAURIA|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3S754HK862DA52CJ75,SAQJT92HA973DKJ3C,SK8HQJ5D864CKT932,S63HT4DQT97CAQ864|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|yorkbeach: system for NS http://livebridge.net/bbo/wbf/cc/5357-7502.pdf|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|yorkbeach: EW are playing a system you will not have seen much in this tournament|pg|| mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|yorkbeach: http://livebridge.net/bbo/wbf/cc/161-28524.pdf|pg|| mb|p|pc|d4|nt|yorkbeach: so this is a natural auction|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|dK|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s6|pc|s4|nt|yorkbeach: the upper limit for 1NT is lower than for strong NT pairs, though in third seat 1NT would be 14-16|pg|| pc|sT|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: or fourth seat|pg|| pc|sA|pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|d2|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|d6|pc|c8|pc|c7|pg|| pc|s2|pc|d8|pc|hT|pc|c5|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|c9|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: just 1@h to lose|pg|| pc|dT|pc|h2|pc|d3|pc|h5|pg|| pc|d9|pc|cJ|pc|h3|nt|yorkbeach: so +1|pg|| pc|hJ|pg|| pc|cA|pc|h6|pc|h7|pc|cT|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|h9|pc|cK|pc|cQ|pc|hK|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: Italy in 3NT in the other room on 1|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: surely making so, 6 or 7 to Italy|pg|| pg|| qx|c1|st||md|3S754HK862DA52CJ75,SAQJT92HA973DKJ3C,SK8HQJ5D864CKT932,S63HT4DQT97CAQ864|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|d|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3C!|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c5|nt|athene: well in time declarer has five spades, two clubs, one heart and some diamonds here|pg|| nt|athene: he needs the @C8 and @H9 to protect those suits|pg|| nt|athene: since he has to lose the lead twice|pg|| nt|athene: i guess he's ok|pg|| nt|athene: throw a diamond here, and knock out the spade|pg|| nt|athene: heart shift doesn't get too many tricks for the defence|pg|| pc|dK|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|sK|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h4|nt|Aurora: hello all :) Live video from this table here on Channel 8: http://livebridge.net/youtube/|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hA|pg|| nt|Aurora: Here you can see the players and their CC: http://livebridge.net/bbo/wbf/match.php?eventid=1024&sessionid=21&matchid=BBO-4|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|d9|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|hJ|pc|hT|pg|| pc|h5|mc|9|pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4S86532H83DT82CK94,SQTHKT9DAK763CT52,SKJ974HAJ72DQC873,SAHQ654DJ954CAQJ6|sv|n|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1D|nt|yorkbeach: 1@c natural :)|pg|| mb|1S|nt|phantoma: 3N may go down |pg|| mb|2D|nt|odysseus69: good afternoon all|pg|| mb|3S|nt|phantoma: hello|pg|| nt|Aurora: hello all :) Live video from this table here on Channel 7: http://livebridge.net/youtube/|pg|| mb|4D|nt|Aurora: Here you can see the players and their CC: http://livebridge.net/bbo/wbf/match.php?eventid=1024&sessionid=21&matchid=BBO-4|pg|| nt|odysseus69: good afternoon all|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: the live scores are not running for this set yet|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|an|.|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: strange to see Italy fighting to qualify rather than leading the fielld|pg|| mb|5D|nt|yorkbeach: Italian supporters will be watching how Bulgaria and Latvia do|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|yorkbeach: results to date are at http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=1024&qshowflag=1|pg|| nt|eamongall: Its quite interesting if one delves a little deeper |pg|| nt|eamongall: Poland v Latvia but if Poland can persuade Latvia to depart then the 20-0 score v italy comes into play in the final |pg|| nt|mamos: Hello Julian and everyone |pg|| nt|yorkbeach: today's bulletin http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/bulletins/Bul_07.pdf|pg|| nt|odysseus69: nicely judged by Welsh who have been struggling|pg|| nt|eamongall: I mean Poland have a large interest in ejecting latvia |pg|| nt|yorkbeach: Bulgaria are playing Switzerland|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|h3|nt|mamos: this lead will make life easierfor drclarer|pg|| pc|h9|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dQ|pc|d4|pc|d2|pg|| nt|odysseus69: sneaky lead but doesnt matter- over now|pg|| pc|d3|nt|yorkbeach: Italy will need to overtake both Bulgaria and Latvia to finish in the top 8|pg|| pc|s4|pc|dJ|pc|d8|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|s7|pg|| nt|mamos: odd really to underlead Ace|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c7|pc|c6|pc|cK|pg|| pc|h8|mc|11|nt|yorkbeach: more common in lower level contract|pg|| nt|mamos: i agree|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: sorry 9 qualifiers, not 8|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: so Italy need to move up only 1 place|pg|| pg|| qx|c2|st||md|4S86532H83DT82CK94,SQTHKT9DAK763CT52,SKJ974HAJ72DQC873,SAHQ654DJ954CAQJ6|sv|n|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|d|mb|3D|nt|diana_eva: welcome to Bill Frisby, Jeffrey Allerton and David Bird on voice commentary. Remember you need to be using the web version of BBO to hear voice: www.bridgebase.com (Click to Play or Watch Bridge)|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|sT|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d8|nt|pelu: in OR 1@s overcall by N kept EW out of 3NT|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|d3|pc|c7|pc|dJ|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|d7|pc|h2|pc|d5|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d6|pc|c8|pc|c6|pc|h8|pg|| pc|c2|pc|h7|pc|cA|pc|c9|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|sK|pc|h5|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|cJ|pc|s3|pc|c5|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1SKQT95H2DQ7CQT752,SAHAQ9643DA96CAJ4,SJ84HT85DK8532CK6,S7632HKJ7DJT4C983|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1H|nt|odysseus69: they are 5 behind 9th so 2 good things have to happen|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|nt|yorkbeach: on board 2 Italy are in 3NT again in the CR|pg|| mb|2S|nt|eamongall: well poland will be wanting to enable their 20-0 victory for the final |pg|| mb|3S!|nt|odysseus69: 3S a bit ecessive not that East will get excited|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: the live scores are now up and running http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=1024&qshowflag=1|pg|| nt|mamos: so thAT should could be a swing to Wales|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|yorkbeach: Bulgaria gained 6 on board 1 by bidding and making 4@s|pg|| nt|pitiful: 3@s not excessive imo, just seeting up FP|pg|| nt|pitiful: east should double i think|pg|| nt|odysseus69: expect a double rather than 5H|pg|| mb|5H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|yorkbeach: yes East a lot of losers and 4@s|pg|| pc|s4|nt|pitiful: i think 3@s a good descriptive bid|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: EW clubs spots not quite good enough for this to make|pg|| nt|odysseus69: bid short of entries but looks 1 down for sure|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: declarer hoping for trumps 2-2, then might have three entries to dummy|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|d9|nt|queequeg: hi all :) links to the Butler rankings: http://bridgeditalia.it/2014/06/european-championships-2014-risultati/|pg|| nt|odysseus69: sorry it was not Patrick in West - he would not have bid 3S or 5H - I am very familiar with his style|pg|| pc|dK|pg|| nt|odysseus69: anything except a club will do|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: 3@s to show a strong 4@h bid is what I play with West but this partnership has not practiced much|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: Italy in 4@h in other room, so scope for big swing|pg|| nt|odysseus69: but dont want to let North double to suggest save -|pg|| nt|mamos: NS did well here to pressure EW |pg|| pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|s5|pc|h3|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| nt|odysseus69: yes North bid 4S here but need partner to cover 3 of 5 losers to make 5H - better to take plus|pg|| pc|d6|nt|yorkbeach: only one entry for playing clubs, not that a second would help|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|s9|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|h7|pc|c5|pg|| pc|h9|pc|s8|pc|s7|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|c7|pg|| pc|c4|pc|d5|pc|c8|pc|cT|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|h6|pc|d8|pc|s6|pg|| pg|| qx|c3|st||md|1SKQT95H2DQ7CQT752,SAHAQ9643DA96CAJ4,SJ84HT85DK8532CK6,S7632HKJ7DJT4C983|sv|e|mb|2S|mb|d|nt|pelu: its the worst italian results for more than 50 years|pg|| mb|3H!|mb|p|nt|queequeg: hi all :) links to the BUTLER rankings: http://bridgeditalia.it/2014/06/european-championships-2014-risultati/|pg|| mb|3S|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|h2|pg|| nt|pelu: wd by NS in OR to bid to 4@s|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d7|pc|d6|pc|dK|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h8|pc|h7|pc|c5|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|s5|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cK|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hA|pc|d3|pc|s6|pc|s9|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|sT|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cA|pc|d8|pc|c8|pc|cT|pg|| pc|h9|pc|sJ|pc|s7|pc|cQ|pg|| pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2S854HK75D5CQ97642,S62H9DQJ6432CKJ83,SAJ7HAJ643DAKT9CA,SKQT93HQT82D87CT5|sv|b|nt|yorkbeach: Bulgaria piling on the IMPs against Switzerland|pg|| mb|2D|mb|d|nt|pitiful: east should certainly have doubled 4@s|pg|| mb|p|nt|yorkbeach: gained 11 on when they made 5@d |pg|| mb|3C|nt|pitiful: not clear why he wanted partner to bid on|pg|| mb|p|nt|odysseus69: better to take 500 than play in doubtful 5H - and sometimes non-vul penalty is 800|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|nt|pitiful: yes so why did patrick pass 4@s victor|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|s7|pg|| nt|mamos: defence has a chance here|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: standard signals|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h3|nt|yorkbeach: East has an idea that declarer has AK10|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hK|pc|h9|pg|| pc|h5|pc|d4|pc|h6|pc|hT|pg|| pc|d7|pc|c2|pc|d2|pc|dT|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|d3|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|s5|nt|yorkbeach: sorry signals are not standard|pg|| pc|c3|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|cA|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|s3|pc|c6|nt|mamos: East has safely exited each time|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|s8|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|dK|pc|sT|pc|c7|pc|d6|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c4|st||md|2S854HK75D5CQ97642,S62H9DQJ6432CKJ83,SAJ7HAJ643DAKT9CA,SKQT93HQT82D87CT5|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|2H|mb|d|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|s7|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cA|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d8|pc|h5|pc|d4|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| pc|dT|pc|c5|pc|h7|pc|d6|pg|| pc|s8|pc|c8|pc|sJ|nt|davisbiz: best defence by E there I think|pg|| pc|sQ|pg|| pc|s9|pc|c4|pc|d2|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|c6|mc|9|pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3ST5HJT864DAKJ63C3,SJ863HQ973D52CAKT,SAKQ9HADT8C987642,S742HK52DQ974CQJ5|sv|n|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|yorkbeach: South has the diamonds stopped|pg|| mb|3D|an|.|mb|p|nt|yorkbeach: heading for 3NT again :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|yorkbeach: on 4 Wales are in 4@h, which has a chance to make|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|d3|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: Poland have taken an early lead against Latvia http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/BoarddetailsCondit.asp?qmatchid=13628|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|h6|pc|s8|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: running scores are at http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=1024&qshowflag=1|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cQ|nt|yorkbeach: Bulgaria are really too far ahead for Italy to overtake|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: so Poland Latvia match the other match of real interest|pg|| pc|dK|pc|cT|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h7|pc|d8|pc|h2|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: on board 2 Poland were in 5@d making, Latvia in 3NT down|pg|| pc|s9|nt|odysseus69: jump to the 3 level in 4th suit to show 5-5 but usually forcing|pg|| pc|hK|pc|d6|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h9|pc|dT|pc|d4|pg|| mc|10|nt|yorkbeach: a trump switch might have helped but not beating anyway|pg|| pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3ST5HJT864DAKJ63C3,SJ863HQ973D52CAKT,SAKQ9HADT8C987642,S742HK52DQ974CQJ5|sv|n|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1D!|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|pelu: east was open for a endplay if N in time had ruffed a @c to hand|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|nt|davisbiz: y timing not quite right the way he went|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d8|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h4|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|s5|pc|cT|pg|| nt|davisbiz: Italy have crept up to 9th at current scores|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|dT|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|h6|pc|cA|pg|| pc|h7|pc|c7|mc|9|pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4SQ5HQ642DK72CKJ87,SAJ82HAT87DJ98CA5,SKT94HJ95DAQ54CT6,S763HK3DT63CQ9432|sv|e|nt|odysseus69: good stop|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|yorkbeach: 1NT 14-16 in 3rd & 4th seat|pg|| mb|p|pc|sT|nt|yorkbeach: this is going down a few|pg|| nt|odysseus69: bit short of tricks here|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|c2|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|s6|pc|s5|pg|| nt|odysseus69: something red now|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: Poland have increased their lead against Latvia|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: by making 4@h on board 4|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s7|nt|yorkbeach: not easy to do - and you will see Shields went down in the CR here|pg|| pc|c7|pc|s8|pg|| pc|s4|pc|c3|pc|d7|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: on current scores Italy have overtaken Latvia - but a long way to go|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dK|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dT|nt|yorkbeach: South does not know you has the @h9|pg|| pc|h2|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|d5|pc|c4|pc|h4|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h8|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h9|pg|| nt|odysseus69: 2 down next|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pg|| pg|| qx|c6|st||md|4SQ5HQ642DK72CKJ87,SAJ82HAT87DJ98CA5,SKT94HJ95DAQ54CT6,S763HK3DT63CQ9432|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|d|mb|r!|an|D.|mb|p|mb|1D!|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h7|pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cT|pc|c3|pc|c7|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|hA|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|c2|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s3|pg|| pc|h8|pc|s9|pc|s6|pc|h6|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s5|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|d8|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|d9|pg|| pc|cJ|mc|8|pg|| qx|o7|st||md|1SATHQ962DQ9842C63,S9875HA87DKJT3CT2,SKQ632H5DCAKJ9875,SJ4HKJT43DA765CQ4|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1H|mb|1N|mb|2H|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: 5C or 4S both Ok as cards lie|pg|| mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4D|nt|odysseus69: dont think Sementa will be too excited - shouldnt bid 4S|pg|| mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: needes to take spade finesse which is the odds|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|c5|pg|| pc|h5|nt|odysseus69: in 5C should play heart - then 1 trump and 2spades and spade ruff|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: sounds good to me|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: caters for trumps 3-1 and spades 4-2|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c3|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s7|pc|sK|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|s3|pc|cQ|pc|d4|pc|s8|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c7|st||md|1SATHQ962DQ9842C63,S9875HA87DKJT3CT2,SKQ632H5DCAKJ9875,SJ4HKJT43DA765CQ4|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|1H|nt|Tez: http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=1024&qshowflag=1|pg|| mb|1N|nt|Tez: GROUP B OPEN|pg|| mb|2H|nt|queequeg: BUTLER rankings: http://bridgeditalia.it/2014/06/european-championships-2014-risultati/ click on the "Butler" buttons of the different groups to display the rankings|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|dT|pc|s2|pg|| nt|jesperdall: Hi guys|pg|| pc|d3|pc|s3|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|c5|pg|| nt|phantoma: hi|pg|| pc|dK|pc|c7|pc|d6|pc|d4|pg|| nt|jesperdall: Really amazed by North - passing 3NT|pg|| pc|hA|pc|c8|pc|h3|pc|h6|pg|| pc|s9|nt|jesperdall: And South, with only the red queens bidding 3NT|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2S52HQ863DJCKT8732,SKJHKT952DT82C954,S63HA74DAKQ7653CQ,SAQT9874HJD94CAJ6|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hJ|nt|yorkbeach: Cima was hoping to find a singleton spade in dummy|pg|| nt|odysseus69: East should double to show that his 4S bid had good defence|pg|| nt|mamos: maybe difficult for EW to realise how many this was going down|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h2|nt|yorkbeach: at least the @dJ is available as an entry for reaching the @cK|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: Victor is right about the X|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|d8|pc|d3|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: though some play the X as short @d, which makes it harder|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|s6|pg|| nt|odysseus69: dont thin k short diamond applies here|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|c3|pg|| pc|dK|pc|s4|pc|c7|pc|dT|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|odysseus69: who gets the trick - West says me|pg|| pc|s8|pc|c8|pc|h9|pg|| mc|8|nt|odysseus69: other way quicker|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: Italy gained 13 on board 7 when Wales played in 3NT|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: so rarely right to play in 3Nt with a 7-5 hand|pg|| pg|| qx|c8|st||md|2S52HQ863DJCKT8732,SKJHKT952DT82C954,S63HA74DAKQ7653CQ,SAQT9874HJD94CAJ6|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1D!|nt|jesperdall: I am not entirely updated as to the standings and results, kibs asking - help!|pg|| mb|1S|nt|Tez: http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=1024&qshowflag=1|pg|| nt|jesperdall: Thx|pg|| mb|d!|mb|p|mb|2S!|mb|3S|nt|jesperdall: I would have bid 2@s here as West - how about you?|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|nt|jesperdall: And perhaps 4@s as East in the first round...|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|davisbiz: y y|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d9|pc|c2|pc|d8|pg|| nt|jesperdall: Some would RDBL as Rosenkrantz, showing a spade honour|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|sQ|nt|jesperdall: Anyway, East may make his game here...|pg|| pc|c3|pc|dT|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h3|nt|Tez: he cant make|pg|| nt|Tez: 1@h and 1@c|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hA|pg|| nt|jesperdall: I am not say that he does - he just may have ;)|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c4|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|s3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|c6|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h7|pc|cJ|pc|hQ|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3SJ97HAJT95DQ5CQ42,SAKT82H3D842CAT63,SQ6H6DKJT973CKJ98,S543HKQ8742DA6C75|sv|e|nt|pitiful: a bit like never put an 8 card suit down in dummy|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: cant find a double|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h6|pg|| nt|odysseus69: the show goes on - be back soon|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dA|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c8|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pc|s9|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|c5|mc|9|nt|odysseus69: ok now- think it needed club lead|pg|| pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3SJ97HAJT95DQ5CQ42,SAKT82H3D842CAT63,SQ6H6DKJT973CKJ98,S543HKQ8742DA6C75|sv|e|mb|1D!|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|jesperdall: If South doubles now, he shows a penalty DBL of 1@H - but I am not sure what they have agreed about spades in this situation|pg|| nt|jesperdall: Anyway, I am surprised that North didn't bid 2@d in the 2nd round|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|jesperdall: Wouldn't you like to compete with North's hand?|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hK|nt|jesperdall: I cannot believe that selling out to two spades as North is a winning strategy|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| nt|Tez: 2@s showing min hand|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s3|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|c5|nt|Tez: he will play small @c i thk|pg|| pc|c4|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|sK|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c7|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|s5|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h5|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|s2|pc|dT|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|s8|mc|8|nt|pelu: Italy is No 9 now 2VP ahead of Latvia - but in total thats = no 18 :(|pg|| pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4SJT84HADT9652CAJ9,SQ97H9863DQ87CT62,S652HQJ42DA3CQ874,SAK3HKT75DKJ4CK53|sv|b|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d8|pc|h4|pc|dK|pg|| nt|eamongall: Meanwhile the qualifying is hotting up in Group A ... Croatia have recovered against Sweden and are now up into 9th place |pg|| nt|eamongall: Spain are continuing a late run of form and have pulled back close to Iceland |pg|| nt|mamos: defence still in control here|pg|| nt|eamongall: http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/results.htm|pg|| nt|eamongall: live tickers for all events and matches here |pg|| nt|pitiful: should be 1 down|pg|| nt|pitiful: sort of looks like about par|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|odysseus69: all of us are forgetting to watch - too busy checking scores - will keep focused now|pg|| nt|eamongall: in the Senior battle for 6th place the 8th place Bulgaria at start of play have leapfrogged both Ireland and Belgium |pg|| pc|s7|pc|s6|nt|pitiful: north will get endplayed|pg|| pc|sA|pg|| pc|hK|pc|d9|pc|h6|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|h7|pc|dT|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|c8|pc|cK|pg|| pc|hT|pc|sT|pc|h8|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|odysseus69: well done Peter keeping on it|pg|| pg|| qx|c10|st||md|4SJT84HADT9652CAJ9,SQ97H9863DQ87CT62,S652HQJ42DA3CQ874,SAK3HKT75DKJ4CK53|sv|b|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d5|nt|pelu: total carry over of results against the other 8 team + some VO acoprding to ranking against the lower 9|pg|| nt|jesperdall: Sounds quite complicated to me, Peter|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| nt|Tez: http://bridgeditalia.it/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/16BUTLEROPENB2.pdf|pg|| nt|pelu: VP acording to ranking against lower 9 - not sure but 0-2-4-6-8-10-12-14-16|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|dK|pg|| nt|Tez: BUTLER RANKÝNG|pg|| pc|hT|nt|jesperdall: I am sure the players say "whatever" to the scoring and carry over rules, and just play bridge|pg|| pc|c9|pc|h6|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|pelu: the ranking VP against lower teams is new format|pg|| nt|jesperdall: But I don't get why it has to be complicated (perhaps it's just me)|pg|| nt|Tez: http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=1024&qshowflag=1|pg|| nt|Tez: GROUP B OPEN|pg|| nt|pelu: for many years score against non-qual didnt count - now they try to give thiese scores a little weight|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|d2|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d9|pc|d8|pc|c4|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sK|nt|jesperdall: South is probably thinking: "why are you getting declarer's suits going and not mine, partner?"|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|s6|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|c7|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c8|pc|c5|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1S7542HQ7DJ743CQJ4,SQJ83HT93DA98C985,SAKHK542DQ52CA762,ST96HAJ86DKT6CKT3|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h6|nt|pitiful: not my choice of lead|pg|| nt|odysseus69: where have the 7 card suits suddenly gone|pg|| nt|pitiful: 10@s pretty clear to me|pg|| nt|pitiful: or 9 if that is your style|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hT|nt|pitiful: still has worked ok here|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| nt|odysseus69: I am with you on the lead but the heart has not proved too disastrous|pg|| nt|pitiful: should go 1 down with careful defence|pg|| nt|odysseus69: 1 down looks favourite again|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c9|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|c5|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|c7|pc|cT|pg|| nt|odysseus69: he wan ted to start clubs from North but made life easier for defence|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|dK|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|cA|pc|h8|pc|d3|nt|odysseus69: Easts knows about 14 points in North before diamonds so pd has D ace and spade Q so nothing to worry about|pg|| pc|h9|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|h5|pg|| nt|pitiful: needs to duck @s|pg|| pc|hA|pc|s7|pc|d9|pc|hK|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|dQ|pc|dT|pc|d7|pg|| pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1S7542HQ7DJ743CQJ4,SQJ83HT93DA98C985,SAKHK542DQ52CA762,ST96HAJ86DKT6CKT3|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Tez: FÝRST 9 TEAM WÝLL qualify|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sK|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|c9|pg|| nt|jesperdall: Several kibitzers asking if the Welsh have given up...|pg|| nt|queequeg: Link to BUTLER scores: http://bridgeditalia.it/2014/06/european-championships-2014-risultati/|pg|| nt|jallerton: http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=1024&qshowflag=1|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|d9|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|cQ|pc|c8|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| nt|pelu: sice 1971 Italy has qual for Bermuda Bowl 18 times out of 22 possible - Gold 12 times|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|c7|pc|s6|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s8|pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|s7|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hA|pc|dJ|pc|h9|pc|hK|pg|| nt|jesperdall: A truly amazing record|pg|| pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2SA964HAQDK73CQT73,S7HJ9852DAQJ954C2,SKQ8HT73DT6CAK854,SJT532HK64D82CJ96|sv|n|nt|pitiful: interesting what plackett will do|pg|| nt|pitiful: as west|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: not quite enough to explore slam - may be enough for a sniff|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|pitiful: 3@d quite tame by his standards|pg|| mb|p|pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c9|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|d4|pg|| nt|odysseus69: quick pass from North but South could be much stronger - preempts cause problems|pg|| pc|cT|pc|h2|pc|cK|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|c8|nt|mamos: good cards in dummy !:)|pg|| pc|s3|pc|c7|pc|h8|pg|| pc|c5|pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|d5|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|h9|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|d9|pg|| pc|s6|pc|dJ|pc|sQ|pc|sT|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c12|st||md|2SA964HAQDK73CQT73,S7HJ9852DAQJ954C2,SKQ8HT73DT6CAK854,SJT532HK64D82CJ96|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1H!|mb|2S!|nt|pelu: only 4 bad results 1985: No 10 87 No16, 89 No 9, 93 No 10|pg|| nt|jesperdall: Does anybody know why the Italians line up as they do?|pg|| mb|d|mb|3H|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|pelu: Yes the 6 best Italian players were on 2 teams before the trial (first time trial in Italy) - and the Lavazza team with 3 topplayers redraw in protest against trial|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d6|pc|d8|pc|dK|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c9|nt|jesperdall: I got about 100 comments about the line up, thx - not all in agreement ;)|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|h2|pg|| nt|pelu: the players we (Italy) are missing is Bocchi-Duboin and Madala|pg|| pc|cT|pc|d4|pc|cK|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|c8|pc|s2|pc|c7|pc|h8|pg|| pc|c5|pc|h4|pc|d3|pc|h9|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|d5|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|sA|mc|10|pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3SJ53H7DQ9873CAK32,SAK962H83DAKTCT64,SQ7HAQT62D652CJ85,ST84HKJ954DJ4CQ97|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: Latvia got 14 IMPs back on board 7 when they made 4@s; Poland went 4 down in the same contract|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=1024&qshowflag=1|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s4|pc|s3|pg|| nt|odysseus69: need a club lead - some swingers open 1 club in 3rd seat|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sQ|pc|s8|pc|s5|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h7|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dT|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|cK|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s2|pc|h2|pc|sT|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|c7|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c13|st||md|3SJ53H7DQ9873CAK32,SAK962H83DAKTCT64,SQ7HAQT62D652CJ85,ST84HKJ954DJ4CQ97|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1S|nt|queequeg: that was not the first time we had trials in Italy|pg|| mb|2H|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg|| nt|queequeg: http://bridgeditalia.it/2014/01/selezioni-per-la-nazionale-in-italia-e-nel-mondo/ for our italian specs this is a good article by Maurizio Di Sacco explaining everything about ...|pg|| nt|queequeg: Italian trials. Unfortunately the article is in Italian. |pg|| pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d6|pc|c7|pc|d7|pg|| nt|queequeg: we had trials in 1964, 1970, 1976, 1987, 1988 and 2012 :)|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|cK|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|s3|pc|h8|pg|| nt|pelu: I am told that Italy 5 times befora had trials|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c8|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|d9|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|nt|queequeg: some spectators are asking about the Final|pg|| mc|8|nt|jesperdall: Finally, 1 imp to Wales!|pg|| pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4SAT9HAT5DAT52C643,S8642HK62DQ98CT87,SQ5HQJ98DK643CKJ5,SKJ73H743DJ7CAQ92|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H!|mb|p|mb|2S!|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|yorkbeach: on 13 same contract (2@s) in CR|pg|| nt|odysseus69: 2C forcing relay - seems a bit weak for that|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: now going to get blueprint of South hand|pg|| mb|p|nt|pitiful: what would you lead?|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: everything wrong|pg|| nt|mamos: yep cards not favourable for this aggressive game|pg|| pc|h2|nt|odysseus69: 4 card suit |pg|| nt|pitiful: looks like 8 tricks|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: depends how much weight you place on East's failure to X 2@s|pg|| nt|eamongall: The battle still goes on in Group A where a good board for Sweden and Iceland can tighten it up again ... Croatia currently well in possession of 9th place |pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h7|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg|| nt|odysseus69: not much - anyway this is the kind of hand where the defence can go astray- not immediately obvious how|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|h3|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: Italy fans may wish to read http://bridgeditalia.it/2014/01/selezioni-per-la-nazionale-in-italia-e-nel-mondo/|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sT|nt|eamongall: Ireland seniors await some of the Irish luck to arrive as Belgium currently have them reined in |pg|| nt|yorkbeach: on Sunday, Monday and Tuesday, the top 9 from group A play the top 9 from group B|pg|| pc|s2|pc|d3|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: and vice versa|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|dK|pc|d7|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|c2|nt|eamongall: oh its football and spaghetti time |pg|| pc|c4|pc|c8|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dJ|nt|pitiful: down 2 now|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d8|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cT|nt|eamongall: if I make the spaghetti I might be allowed watch the football|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|s7|pc|d5|pc|s8|pc|c5|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d6|pc|c9|pc|dT|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: Brazil Chile kicked off a few minutes ago|pg|| pg|| qx|c14|st||md|4SAT9HAT5DAT52C643,S8642HK62DQ98CT87,SQ5HQJ98DK643CKJ5,SKJ73H743DJ7CAQ92|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1D!|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|s2|pc|s5|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|d7|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d9|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|d4|pc|h4|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|c3|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|queequeg: I am looking for en English link with the rules about the Final so our commentators don't have to repeat them many times|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: there is no final|pg|| pc|d5|pc|h6|pc|d6|pc|c2|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h3|nt|yorkbeach: the top 9 teams from group B play the top 9 teams from group A|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hK|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: and the other way round|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sT|pc|s6|pc|c5|pg|| pc|s7|mc|6|nt|yorkbeach: so teams finishing 1-9 play 3 matches a day on Sunday, Monday, Tuesday|pg|| pg|| qx|o15|st||md|1SA8654HA7DAQ52CJ3,SJ72HQJ92DK9CAQT7,SKQT9HT4DJ76CK965,S3HK8653DT843C842|sv|n|nt|odysseus69: 2Nt was where they should have stopped|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|nt|eamongall: Ireland grab 4 imps to be 0.01 ahead of Belgium but Bulgaria continue to pulverise Hungary |pg|| nt|yorkbeach: very considerate of FIFA to put a match involving non European teams on that this time :)|pg|| mb|3H!|mb|p|nt|eamongall: Bulgaria 5.6 points into 6th at the moment |pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|yorkbeach: card does not explain 3@h but clearly some sort of @s raise|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hA|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s9|nt|odysseus69: not much to this |pg|| pc|h5|pc|sA|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|h2|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|d6|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c3|pg|| mc|10|nt|odysseus69: 3 rounds of spades - exit heart and see if anything good happens - 10 tricks sure with both club honours in West|pg|| nt|pitiful: last board of the event for wales but not for Italy who appear to have done enough to qualify|pg|| nt|odysseus69: last of phase 1|pg|| pg|| qx|c15|st||md|1SA8654HA7DAQ52CJ3,SJ72HQJ92DK9CAQT7,SKQT9HT4DJ76CK965,S3HK8653DT843C842|sv|n|nt|yorkbeach: not sure about the carry forward|pg|| mb|1S|mb|d|mb|2N!|mb|3H|nt|JosJ: supplemental conditions of contest, on EBL main Opatija page|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|queequeg: http://www.eurobridge.org/Data/Sites/1/media/documents/competitions/2014EBCOpatija/SupplmentalCofC.pdf|pg|| mb|p|nt|queequeg: Page 4 |pg|| pc|hQ|nt|yorkbeach: I understand that just the scores from the others carrying on count|pg|| nt|ahollan1: full carryover of VPs from teams that qualified|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|hA|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: people are saying different things - best to follow the link|pg|| nt|ahollan1: ranking for VPs won against non-qualifiers adds: 10th place 0 9th +2 8th +4, etc|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s9|pc|h3|pc|sA|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|c2|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hT|nt|yorkbeach: scores again non qualifying teams count for something - quite complicated|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h7|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|d4|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c3|nt|ahollan1: oops i started with 10th should be 9:+0 8:+2 7:+4|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|c4|pg|| mc|10|nt|ahollan1: top level page for all scores http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/results.htm|pg|| pg|| qx|o16|st||md|2S642H753DQJ42CKT6,SKJTHKQJT6DA9CJ92,S9873HA84D753CA75,SAQ5H92DKT86CQ843|sv|e|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|yorkbeach: quite a few teams will be going home tomorrow|pg|| nt|pitiful: dull hand to finish the event|pg|| mb|p|pc|s8|nt|yorkbeach: Italy will have a lot of catching up to do|pg|| nt|odysseus69: boring board to finish- couldnt be worse|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: just what Italy wanted|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|sT|pg|| nt|mamos: yep after swapping swings at the start this has not been themost exciting of matches - Italy just been too strong for Wales|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|hA|pg|| nt|Aurora: Thanks to all Commentators, operators and kibitzes. See you tomorrow for another session. All results here: http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/Results.htm|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|c4|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|d7|pc|c8|pc|s2|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|d3|pc|cQ|pc|s4|pg|| nt|odysseus69: thx all|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|d2|pg|| pc|s5|pc|c6|pc|sK|pc|s7|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d9|pc|c7|pc|dK|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dQ|pc|c2|pc|s9|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|dT|pg|| nt|eamongall: Yes Italy have 3 world class players on play and I don't know Mr Cima but he has plenty of ranking points and won Euro Club final |pg|| nt|yorkbeach: thanks to our operator|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: and to Victor and Peter|pg|| nt|eamongall: and 8th in Euro pairs |pg|| nt|vugraphzdd: tx all, see you tomorrow|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: results at http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=1024&qshowflag=1|pg|| nt|eamongall: ok off to another room now |pg|| pg|| qx|c16|st||md|2S642H753DQJ42CKT6,SKJTHKQJT6DA9CJ92,S9873HA84D753CA75,SAQ5H92DKT86CQ843|sv|e|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|ahollan1: vugraph archive for the venue in multiple formats http://vugraph-archive.comuv.com/2014/etc/index.html|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|nt|yorkbeach: (a)The qualified teams will carry over all the VPs scored in the matches against the otherqualified teams from their group.|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|nt|yorkbeach: (b)In addition, in each group, the qualified teams will be ranked according to the pointsscored against the non - qualified teams only. The last ranked will carry over0 VP, the second last will carry over 2 VP , the third last 4 VP and so for|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|d7|pc|d6|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|h8|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hA|nt|ahollan1: if you use http://www.bridgebase.com/vugraph/schedule.php it shows start time for VIEWER's timezone|pg|| pc|d8|pc|h7|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|d4|pc|dA|pg|| mc|10|nt|ahollan1: top 9 from each Open Group start play tomorrow against top 9 from the other group [so 3 days of 3 16-board matches]|pg|| nt|ahollan1: at the end top 6 earn right to play in 2015 Bermuda Bowl|pg|| nt|Aurora: Thanks to all Commentators, operators and kibitzes. See you tomorrow for another session. All results here: http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/Results.htm|pg|| nt|ahollan1: vugraph lineup for tomorrow will eventually be available via http://livebridge.net/bbo/sessions.php?eventid=1024|pg|| nt|ahollan1: and entire draw will be under http://livebridge.net/bbo/wbf/ebldraw.php?sid=21|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Seniors completed play this set and will have their Closing Ceremony tonight|pg|| nt|ahollan1: that is why early start times today|pg|| pg||