vg|52nd EBTC-BBO2,OPEN-RR16,I,17,32,IRELAND,0,MONACO,0| rs|3DE+1,2SN=,4HE+1,4HE+2,1NN=,2HS-1,2HE=,4HW-2,4SEx=,2SE=,5DS=,5DN=,6DE=,6DW=,4SS-1,4HEx-2,4HW+1,4HW=,4HN=,4HN=,4SWx-2,4SWx-2,3SN-1,4SN-2,3NE+3,3NE+2,3NW-1,4HNx-2,2HW+1,3HW-3,2DE-1,3DE=| pn|CARROLL,HELGEMO,GARVEY,T HELNESS,NUNES,McGANN,FANTONI,HANLON|pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3SK654HKJT5D9CT754,SAJT83HAQ84D854C9,SQ92H72DAJT7CKQ82,S7H963DKQ632CAJ63|sv|o|mb|1C|an|'|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|vugraphzct: hi all|pg|| nt|vugraphzct: http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/results.htm|pg|| nt|vugraphzct: channel 3: http://livebridge.net/youtube/|pg|| nt|athene: hi good afternoon everyone|pg|| mb|3D|nt|odysseus69: good afternoon all|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: penultimate round - Monaco close second - ireland 8th -16 ahead of 10th with 9 to qualify|pg|| pc|hT|nt|vugraphzct: Lead - J or short|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|d4|pc|c2|pg|| nt|athene: 1@C opener for NS is weak balanced or any strong 17+ hcp|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|d2|pc|s5|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c7|pc|d5|pc|c8|pg|| nt|athene: they play upside down attitude and count|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sQ|pc|d3|pc|s6|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cT|pc|d8|pc|cK|pg|| nt|odysseus69: seems strange that South passed 1 diamond|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|sK|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|d7|pc|h9|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d9|pc|h8|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|hJ|pc|sT|pg|| pg|| qx|c17|st||md|3SK654HKJT5D9CT754,SAJT83HAQ84D854C9,SQ92H72DAJT7CKQ82,S7H963DKQ632CAJ63|sv|o|nt|HedyG: he does speak English rather well but somehow it always sounds Italian :)|pg|| mb|1N!|an|12-14|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: in the other room EW helgemo-helness play very natural NS carroll-garvey play almost same as hanlon-mcgann|pg|| mb|2C!|nt|ahollan1: 1N = 12-14 throughout includes some unexpected shapes|pg|| nt|shengabus: http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/results.htm|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D!|nt|ahollan1: 2@C RELAY but initial response looks like stayman|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H!|mb|p|mb|2S!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@H forces 2@S|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|dQ|nt|ahollan1: i think nunes sequence typically weak 5+@S 4+@H|pg|| nt|vugraphzcu: nice bubble gum from Nunes :)|pg|| nt|HedyG: lol|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d8|pc|dA|pg|| nt|HedyG: is he reading the wrapping?|pg|| nt|HedyG: no discussing some more|pg|| nt|vugraphzcu: too early for magazines|pg|| nt|vugraphzcu: here they come|pg|| nt|vugraphzcu: it's a beletristic book I think|pg|| nt|vugraphzcu: I'll let you know of the title if it becomes exposed|pg|| nt|HedyG: lol|pg|| nt|ahollan1: EW signals udca with 1st discard even=encouraging odd=discouraging & suit pref|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|c6|nt|ahollan1: not sure why they flip-flop from the historical [italian blue team] odd-even|pg|| pc|c4|pg|| nt|HedyG: the good news for NS is that they not vulnerable|pg|| nt|ahollan1: and @C trick = more good news for declarer|pg|| nt|ahollan1: this is round 16 of 17 for the qualifying round robin|pg|| nt|ahollan1: top 9 from each of 2 groups advances to next stage|pg|| nt|ahollan1: at start of match Monaco in 2nd Ireland 8th|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|s4|pc|d4|pg|| pc|s5|nt|ahollan1: as mentioned all week top level for running scores http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/results.htm|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|s7|pg|| pc|dT|nt|ahollan1: our match Group A|pg|| pc|d2|pc|c5|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d7|nt|HedyG: no @c back to hand, quite confidant of A@C in E|pg|| pc|d3|pc|c7|pc|s3|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h4|pc|c2|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|HedyG: and another @H|pg|| nt|ahollan1: amazing plus score|pg|| nt|HedyG: and then @C endplays W|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|c8|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cT|nt|shengabus: well done!|pg|| pc|s8|pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s2|pc|d6|pc|sK|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|cA|pg|| pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4S973HJ82DKJ4CT763,SKT86H4DAT72CAK92,SQJHA7DQ8653CQJ85,SA542HKQT9653D9C4|sv|n|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: Helgemo-Helness dont hang around|pg|| nt|athene: the percentage play in this trump suit is to finesse the ten, isn't it?|pg|| nt|athene: 8-card fit with only one lead available from dummy?|pg|| pc|dK|nt|odysseus69: good guessing for 12 tricks |pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|nt|odysseus69: but heart to 10 normal|pg|| pc|d9|pg|| nt|athene: sometimes there are other considerations - for example if you just want to get as many trumps out the way as fast as possible to cut down on possible ruffs|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s8|nt|athene: there are three ways to work out the best play: a) list all the relevant layouts b) look it up in a book c) watch what helness does :)|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h2|nt|odysseus69: now he will get spades right|pg|| pc|d2|pc|hA|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|h3|pc|d4|pc|d7|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|s6|pc|d3|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c8|pc|s2|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|h5|pc|c7|pg|| pc|h6|pc|cT|pc|dT|pc|d6|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|dJ|pc|c9|pc|d8|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|sT|pc|cQ|pc|s5|pc|s9|pg|| pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4S973HJ82DKJ4CT763,SKT86H4DAT72CAK92,SQJHA7DQ8653CQJ85,SA542HKQT9653D9C4|sv|n|mb|4H|nt|bebechira: this is your match http://livebridge.net/bbo/wbf/match.php?eventid=1024&sessionid=20&matchid=BBO-2|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bebechira: this room on channel 4 http://livebridge.net/youtube/|pg|| pc|h2|nt|ahollan1: GREAT dummy|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| nt|ahollan1: unlucky lead or should nunes have tried something/anything else|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|h9|pc|d4|pg|| nt|loganrun: Hi all|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|s6|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pc|d7|pc|d6|pg|| nt|loganrun: This is a contract I can make, the previous 2S hand is another matter|pg|| pc|hT|pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|d8|pg|| pc|h6|pc|s3|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c8|pc|s2|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|h5|mc|12|nt|HedyG: there is a slight lag between the webcam ( slower) and the actual play|pg|| pg|| qx|o19|st||md|1SA642H72DA7CQJ643,SQ83HQJ3DJ932CAT5,SJ5HA9865D865CK97,SKT97HKT4DKQT4C82|sv|e|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|athene: strictly speaking, the south hands qualifies for their 2@C opener|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|nt|athene: but my guess is with a moderate suit and 5422 he is treating it as a balanced hand|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dK|nt|odysseus69: no problems here for 7 tricks|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d6|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|cK|mc|7|nt|athene: 1NT stole the hand quite nicely|pg|| nt|odysseus69: a trump lead would defeat 2 clubs|pg|| pg|| qx|c19|st||md|1SA642H72DA7CQJ643,SQ83HQJ3DJ932CAT5,SJ5HA9865D865CK97,SKT97HKT4DKQT4C82|sv|e|mb|1N!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: a rare 11|pg|| nt|HedyG: 12-14 NT|pg|| mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@D not necessarily @H|pg|| nt|bebechira: i would say..at least 20 sec|pg|| mb|p|nt|HedyG: Hanlon might still come in|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: but rebids by opener assume @H|pg|| nt|HedyG: yes Traian, is there a way to fix that?|pg|| nt|vugraphzcu: I can click cards 20 seconds slower I guess :)|pg|| pc|d2|nt|bebechira: nope|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|d7|pg|| nt|HedyG: we owe Traian for the fantastic organisation of the webpages, the broadcasts and the webcams; great job!!|pg|| nt|ahollan1: yesterday there was an even longer delay in one match players had already left room with video showing finish of penultimate then welland-auken in long relay auction to 7N|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c4|nt|ahollan1: to right Traian stuff is amazing|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cK|pg|| nt|bebechira: dpends of a lot of factors...but the speed of the internet is an important one|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|h4|pc|c3|pg|| nt|ahollan1: for the very late comers top level video feed http://livebridge.net/youtube/|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i don't recall which channel has our room|pg|| nt|vugraphzcu: channel 4|pg|| nt|bebechira: we have 8 channels...formula is BBO1=1+2/BBO2=3+4 etc etc|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d6|pg|| nt|HedyG: we only rarely see upgrades by NS. if Nunes had passed (his other option) the board might have been passed out|pg|| nt|ahollan1: way too early in the day to figure out that algorithm Traiain|pg|| pc|c6|nt|HedyG: up the line Traian? LOL|pg|| nt|ahollan1: and we've only had a week to gather data|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|hT|pg|| nt|ahollan1: an open = odd closed = even|pg|| nt|HedyG: we have VG4|pg|| nt|HedyG: www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyuYM6o_-Jg|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|h7|pc|d9|pc|d8|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|h6|pc|s9|pg|| pc|hA|pc|sT|pc|s4|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|h8|pc|dT|pc|s6|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|h9|pc|sK|pc|cJ|pg|| pg|| qx|o20|st||md|2SAJ984H6DT543CK84,SK72HA974DAK92CT7,S53HJT53DQ86CAJ32,SQT6HKQ82DJ7CQ965|sv|b|nt|athene: if south had opened 2@C then it might have gone pass pass double and i guess NS would have been forced into 3|pg|| mb|1D|nt|odysseus69: meanwhile E-W have a diamond partial|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|athene: there is a saying "bidding 1NT buries your fit and the opponents' fit as well" - that often works out nicely when your suit is lower-ranking than theirs :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: playing 14-16 notrump you might well get to game on these after 1NT from West|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pg|| nt|athene: north will play the @HJ i suppose trying to conceal the position - south could have led from @H10xxx|pg|| nt|odysseus69: just about to say that "dont lead singleton trump" is overdone|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| nt|odysseus69: yes here it appears to kill norths trump trick but it may come back|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|d7|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|s8|pc|sK|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|s4|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d4|pc|d9|pc|d6|pg|| pc|h2|pc|d5|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|sT|pc|dT|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c20|st||md|2SAJ984H6DT543CK84,SK72HA974DAK92CT7,S53HJT53DQ86CAJ32,SQT6HKQ82DJ7CQ965|sv|b|nt|HedyG: for results and running scores: www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/results.htm|pg|| mb|1N|an|14-16|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 13.5-16|pg|| mb|2C!|an|not promising M|mb|p|mb|2H|an|4 or 5!H|mb|p|nt|HedyG: 13 1/2?|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@C alerted because does not promise a 4-card suit|pg|| nt|HedyG: OT stopped in 2@H making|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i didn't think that had to be alerted anymore|pg|| nt|loganrun: Yes it is a vul game range but as the commentators are saying - not good here|pg|| nt|HedyG: i play that and have to alert|pg|| pc|s3|nt|HedyG: ¦ ¦|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i remember when that first started being used 1N-2N was now artificial so 1N-2@C included the normal balanced raise without 4@H/@S|pg|| nt|ahollan1: very controversial ruling in one of the BIG team games where Kantar was not reminded his opponents were using the treatment|pg|| nt|HedyG: interesting|pg|| nt|ahollan1: was either spingold, vanderbilt, team trial or maybe even world championship|pg|| nt|HedyG: here we have a slawinski lead|pg|| nt|ahollan1: original text http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/ forster/bridge/development/slawinski/|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg|| nt|ahollan1: good luck reading that |pg|| pc|cT|pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cK|pg|| nt|ahollan1: NS CC + attached Supplemental Notes have decent explanation|pg|| pc|d5|nt|HedyG: reverse count when they have no honour, i.e. small from even number, high from odd|pg|| nt|ahollan1: basically low = even without honor or odd with|pg|| nt|vugraphzcu: not using Slawinski on switches was the question asked by McGann|pg|| nt|vugraphzcu: using count or attitude on switches whatever is more important|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d7|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c8|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|s8|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|nt|HedyG: yes it is variable depending on the situation|pg|| pc|d8|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|loganrun: He has lost 4 tricks already - so down 2|pg|| nt|HedyG: @D now should make for -2|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h2|pc|s4|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|h8|pc|c4|pg|| nt|HedyG: really?|pg|| mc|8|nt|HedyG: this was not the play|pg|| nt|vugraphzcu: not the play|pg|| nt|HedyG: cause like this N could exit @D for -3|pg|| nt|HedyG: sry exit @H|pg|| nt|vugraphzcu: just easier for me to claim at the end, high trump etc.|pg|| nt|shengabus: http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/results.htm|pg|| nt|ahollan1: last set ireland got off to very bad start but came back late for a 2 imp win over sweden|pg|| pg|| qx|o21|st||md|3SJ4H7654DK54CT854,S876HAKJ98D7C9763,SAQTHT32DQJT2CAK2,SK9532HQDA9863CQJ|sv|n|mb|1N|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: 4S looks a lot on West - 3 spades enough for me|pg|| nt|athene: hmmm the H-H convention card says 2@D over opponents' 1NT is hearts, or spades+minor|pg|| pc|h6|nt|odysseus69: trunp lead again |pg|| nt|athene: goodbye, club losers!|pg|| nt|athene: now he can throw the @CQJ and do a lot of jolly cross-ruffing in the minors|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|d2|pg|| nt|odysseus69: when1Nt opener doubles on his own he must have trump tricks|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|s6|pc|dT|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|cJ|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|cQ|pc|h5|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|s2|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|s7|nt|athene: very nice board for HH here|pg|| pc|dJ|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|s3|pc|c5|pg|| pc|d8|pc|sJ|pc|h9|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| nt|athene: now the defence are stuck - if they draw trumps, the @D9 is good, but if they don't, declarer can simply ruff it with that nice fat @S8|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|h7|pc|c7|pg|| pc|d9|pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|sT|pg|| pc|c2|pc|s9|pc|cT|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|athene: if north had forced declarer with a club that would just let him elope with the @S9|pg|| nt|athene: what Kelsey called the "tempo or elopement dilemma" in "Adventures in Card Play"|pg|| nt|eamongall: probably was losing 420 anyway as the double hardly misdirected the opening lead |pg|| pg|| qx|c21|st||md|3SJ4H7654DK54CT854,S876HAKJ98D7C9763,SAQTHT32DQJT2CAK2,SK9532HQDA9863CQJ|sv|n|nt|HedyG: what happens is towards the end of the hand they play like lightning and it is very tough for the operator to keep up|pg|| mb|1C!|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = forcing 14+ unbal or 15+ bal|pg|| mb|2D|an|!H|nt|ahollan1: voice commentary has Bill Jacobs -- author of "Fantunes Revealed"|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H!|an|relay|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: click on player name to gain access to CC and other info|pg|| mb|2S|nt|HedyG: group A: www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=1023&qshowflag=1|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@D = 5+@H|pg|| pc|c4|nt|HedyG: group B: www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=1024&qshowflag=1|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@H would pass the minimum range of 9-12|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cJ|pc|c5|pc|c6|pg|| nt|HedyG: in the mean time the seniors are playing the finals: www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=1025&qshowflag=1|pg|| nt|HedyG: ladies: www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=1021&qshowflag=1|pg|| nt|HedyG: here the OR played 4@SX= !!!|pg|| nt|ahollan1: in other room DBL just increased the imp loss for ireland|pg|| nt|HedyG: it was played by E|pg|| nt|ahollan1: after 1N opener just too tough for carroll to find @C lead|pg|| nt|HedyG: on a @H lead|pg|| nt|loganrun: Staring at the heart suit in dummy - a trump switch looks poor - a club is properly the worst of all evils|pg|| nt|loganrun: best I mean|pg|| nt|ahollan1: an here as mentioned by Bill Jacobs ew auction increased chance that 1@C opening was Natural vs the Balanced variety|pg|| nt|ahollan1: so nunes @C lead very attractive|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sK|nt|HedyG: in the other room N had opened 1NT|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s6|pg|| nt|ahollan1: too often just not fair to see fantoni come up with these plays|pg|| nt|ahollan1: AT THE TABLE|pg|| nt|HedyG: lol|pg|| nt|ahollan1: but he did know @C layout and hanlon figures to be short in @H but not good/extra @S after the 2@H rebid|pg|| nt|loganrun: A few years ago I was commetating when Fantoni was on lead at trick 2 in defence and thought 8 minutes|pg|| pc|dA|nt|ahollan1: so expect @D length and that helps find trump shift|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|s7|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h2|pc|hQ|nt|HedyG: only? i have seen him think longer|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dK|nt|loganrun: He then found the only card in his hand to let the contract make|pg|| pc|s8|pc|dT|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|d8|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|d9|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|HedyG: but he gets is right usually after the huddle|pg|| pc|sA|nt|ahollan1: Hideous Hog: if you're going to make a mistake -- make it quickly|pg|| pc|s2|pc|h7|pg|| nt|loganrun: Declarer couldn't believe it and proceeded to go 2 off|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|HedyG: :)|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|c7|pg|| nt|HedyG: lol see?|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|c2|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s9|pc|cT|pc|h9|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|HedyG: so it was the right lead after all!|pg|| nt|loganrun: This is brillance|pg|| nt|ahollan1: chris describing a corollary to the Sominex Coup|pg|| pg|| qx|o22|st||md|4SKT4HAKDAJT97CT53,S986HJ543D85CK982,SAQJ3HQ872DQ632C4,S752HT96DK4CAQJ76|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: think that the double gave South the clue to the winning lead|pg|| mb|2C|mb|d|nt|jesperdall: I am sure NS will not be thinking about Kelsey right now...|pg|| mb|p!|mb|p|nt|eamongall: yes agree but sherlock was not listening to the dog |pg|| mb|r|nt|athene: i think that double there should have some lead significance|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|jesperdall: Tricky - I don't fancy the double of 4@s|pg|| nt|odysseus69: 2D now to show good diamonds -some play that way9 with pass neutral and xx good clubs|pg|| nt|athene: does south's second-round pass here deny a club stopper?|pg|| nt|odysseus69: 3C now or if South has denied a stopper 4C|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|nt|athene: on the principle of being annoying, helgemo might have wanted to "raise" his partner to 3@C, but maybe you can't do that at this vulnerability - partner might take you too ...|pg|| nt|athene: seriously if he has a hand|pg|| nt|odysseus69: is that forcing? hope so|pg|| nt|jesperdall: We will see!|pg|| mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|nt|jesperdall: Well bid, slam on a finesse|pg|| nt|odysseus69: horrible slam on a finesse board - I hate them -|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| nt|jesperdall: I agree|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d2|nt|odysseus69: imps swing by luck|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| nt|jesperdall: Can we delete those boards, somehow?|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d8|pc|d3|pc|dK|pg|| mc|11|nt|athene: it's fine - just play nice long matches and then the truth emerges|pg|| nt|odysseus69: I would love that to happen|pg|| nt|athene: i.e. that bidding a 50% slam neither wins nor loses imps, in the long run|pg|| nt|jesperdall: 16 boards do not make a long match...|pg|| nt|athene: so no need to worry, whatever you do and whatever happens :)|pg|| nt|athene: admittedly it's hard to take it philosophically when you are on the wrong side of one of these "random" swings|pg|| nt|jesperdall: Anyway, declarer should have finessed in trumps - the "safety" play was too safe for me|pg|| pg|| qx|c22|st||md|4SKT4HAKDAJT97CT53,S986HJ543D85CK982,SAQJ3HQ872DQ632C4,S752HT96DK4CAQJ76|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: another balanced version of 1@C|pg|| mb|1D!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@D = 0-11, 4+@H|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C!|nt|ahollan1: 1N 15-18, not 4@H|pg|| mb|d|nt|ahollan1: 2@C is a RELAY not positive if fair to say checkback|pg|| mb|2N!|an|doesn't promise a stopper, just a bal ha|mb|p|nt|HedyG: they call it all relay, stayman as well|pg|| mb|3C!|an|asking stopper|mb|d|mb|p!|mb|p|nt|HedyG: now 3@D|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Hedy makes a good point -- most people don't realize that Stayman really IS a relay|pg|| nt|HedyG: they can still find @S|pg|| mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|HedyG: why 5?|pg|| nt|HedyG: Jurica what is the pass over 2nd X? did you hear?|pg|| nt|vugraphzcu: I can't make out written description from Nunes' side|pg|| nt|vugraphzcu: a lot of writing done|pg|| nt|HedyG: ok np|pg|| nt|vugraphzcu: 2@D any max after double|pg|| nt|loganrun: No stopper and no 3 card hearts etc makes sense|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i wonder if 2nd DBL was hanlon-the-poker-player trying to convince NS he held different hand|pg|| pc|cA|nt|ahollan1: so trying to make then worried about an otherwise making 3N|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c5|nt|HedyG: well they didnt want to play NT :)|pg|| pc|c8|pc|d2|pg|| nt|ahollan1: he didn't know that from auction up to 3@C|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c9|pc|dQ|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|d8|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o23|st||md|1SAJ762HKT5DJ9CQJ3,SHQJ9872DKQ8762CK,SQT943H43D4CT9865,SK85HA6DAT53CA742|sv|b|nt|jesperdall: 1 imp gone half of the time|pg|| mb|1S|nt|jesperdall: Lovely board, this one!|pg|| mb|3C!|nt|athene: 3@C Ghestem, red suits|pg|| nt|jesperdall: Grand on a...finesse|pg|| nt|odysseus69: diamond slam here but can they bid it|pg|| mb|4S|nt|odysseus69: good start - 3C is red suits|pg|| nt|athene: east wants to show a strong 5@D bid now - does he have a way to do that?|pg|| nt|odysseus69: expect 6D now|pg|| nt|jesperdall: Not easy to get to slam, correct|pg|| nt|athene: one advantage that EW have over a pair playing michaels is that west has shown specifically which suits he has|pg|| nt|athene: rather than just "hearts + minor" which is definitely inferior|pg|| nt|jesperdall: But does East care?|pg|| nt|athene: so if we assume that east will always want to play in one of his partner's suits, he has more bids available|pg|| mb|6D|nt|athene: e.g. 4nt could be strong 5@D and 5@C could be strong 5@H|pg|| nt|athene: ok, 6@D shows a strong 5@D bid too i guess|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jesperdall: Great bid by Helness here - depends on how weak helgemo can be for his bid, of course|pg|| nt|athene: helness is strong enough that he knows north is bidding off quite a lot of shape so there is an excellent chance west is void in spades|pg|| nt|odysseus69: South has that feeling that 6D is going to make but its tough to save vulnerable|pg|| pc|sA|pc|d2|pc|s9|pc|s5|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|d9|pg|| pc|d6|pc|s4|pc|dA|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h6|mc|12|nt|athene: as expected on board 20, EW in the other room playing 14-16 notrump got to 4@H rather than 2@H|pg|| nt|athene: these 15-17 vs 14-16 hands produce a lot of swings, 1nt vs 3nt or 2M vs 4M|pg|| nt|odysseus69: as it turns out 6S is only 800 but cant really imagine bidding it|pg|| pg|| qx|c23|st||md|1SAJ762HKT5DJ9CQJ3,SHQJ9872DKQ8762CK,SQT943H43D4CT9865,SK85HA6DAT53CA742|sv|b|mb|1N!|mb|2C!|an|!H + one suit|nt|ahollan1: still 12-14|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@C = @H + another [ASPTRO]|pg|| mb|2N|an|alerted|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2N good hand - asking for 2nd suit|pg|| nt|HedyG: 2@C= @H + any|pg|| nt|HedyG: sry Al :( you are so quick|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2N usually not 4@H|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i've played the simpler ASTRO since mid 1970s :)|pg|| mb|4D|mb|p|nt|HedyG: 2@s would have been pass/correct relay?|pg|| nt|twinbridge: 5c?|pg|| nt|HedyG: (since W could have @H+@S)|pg|| mb|6D|mb|p|nt|twinbridge: lol|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|sT|pc|s5|nt|ahollan1: (1N)-2@C-P-? 2@D = weak pass/correct 2@S=nat, constructive but can be played as pass/correct|pg|| nt|loganrun: Hanlon was hoping a spade would not be led but all is well|pg|| pc|sA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|d9|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|s3|pc|d5|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hA|nt|ahollan1: this week we've seen 4 8-card suits, a 7510, a 6520 and now 6610|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o24|st||md|2SKJT6HA3DKJ963C65,S85H85DQT842CQJ97,SA972H62DA7CK8432,SQ43HKQJT974D5CAT|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|1H|nt|athene: a partnership in harmony here - north treats his 4-2-2-5 exactly as his partner did a moment ago|pg|| mb|2C!|an|!D|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|3H|mb|3S|nt|odysseus69: t/fer to diamonds - t/fers in competition are more and more frequent|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: i was expecting 2@S from south - surely that must be forcing? |pg|| nt|jesperdall: Yes, declarer will go down - perhaps two down|pg|| pc|h8|nt|DaMan: http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/Results.htm|pg|| nt|vugraphzct: sorry, second time helness said 3@H|pg|| nt|athene: ahh, ok|pg|| nt|athene: that makes sense|pg|| nt|odysseus69: this is going to go badly|pg|| nt|jesperdall: Makes more sense|pg|| nt|athene: @SQ to find and a lot of work to do besides that|pg|| nt|athene: declarer will surely put west with longer trumps given the heart split, so i don't expect him to make this|pg|| pc|h2|nt|odysseus69: however he may well duck clubs twice|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg|| nt|jesperdall: No, he will try to make his contract|pg|| nt|odysseus69: but will probably go for diamonds first|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d7|pc|s3|nt|odysseus69: only 50s|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d4|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|h6|pg|| nt|odysseus69: dont think he should have ruffed|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|s5|pc|s2|pg|| nt|athene: of course it is possible to think of layouts where ruffing would be wrong|pg|| nt|athene: but perhaps helness decided that if declarer had the @CQ he would be playing on clubs|pg|| nt|athene: so it looks as though the defence have 2 club tricks|pg|| nt|athene: so ruffing is basically the setting trick|pg|| nt|jesperdall: Good reasoning|pg|| nt|odysseus69: yes I suppose it was the safe thing unless South had singleton club|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|s7|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|queequeg: hi :) useful tool to convert IMPs into VPs http://bridgeditalia.it/converter/|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c24|st||md|2SKJT6HA3DKJ963C65,S85H85DQT842CQJ97,SA972H62DA7CK8432,SQ43HKQJT974D5CAT|sv|o|nt|ahollan1: nice push|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N!|nt|HedyG: to revue prior matches: http://vugraph-archive.comuv.com/2014/etc/index.html|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2nd 11 count 1N in 1 set!!!|pg|| mb|4H|nt|ahollan1: i don't think i saw any 11s in 2013|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: you'll only see them do it when non-vul|pg|| nt|HedyG: no, this easy upgrading is new and in the line of modern aggressive bridge|pg|| nt|loganrun: Bill what lead here - 5 of clubs?|pg|| nt|HedyG: there are more and more pairs who systemically open at 11+ hands|pg|| nt|loganrun: Jack of spades maybe|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|c5|nt|ahollan1: and then there is roy welland who likes a lot of 9-counts :)|pg|| nt|HedyG: :)|pg|| nt|loganrun: Consistent here|pg|| nt|ahollan1: slawinski includes LOW from worthless doubleton|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|cT|pg|| nt|ahollan1: actually that is how i remember the spot card leads |pg|| pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| nt|ahollan1: low from even without honor or odd with honor|pg|| nt|HedyG: i dont think he would have lef @c without the A@H|pg|| nt|ahollan1: sweden having a tough time against norway has fallen from 1st to 3rd monaco now leads with germany in 2nd [for group A]|pg|| nt|HedyG: i like A@H and @H but i can see all cards|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hA|nt|loganrun: Going for a diamond ruff if declarer is 3 2 the other way|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|h6|pc|h4|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg|| nt|ahollan1: another spot on defense|pg|| pc|hK|pc|d6|nt|loganrun: Or a second diamond trick same thing|pg|| pc|d4|pc|c4|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|d9|nt|HedyG: Fantoni should disc @d|pg|| pc|d8|pc|c8|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|dJ|pc|s8|pc|d7|pg|| pc|hT|nt|HedyG: voila|pg|| pc|s6|pc|c9|pc|cK|pg|| pc|h9|pc|sT|nt|ahollan1: squeezing NS down to a claim|pg|| pc|dT|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sJ|nt|HedyG: :)|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s4|pc|dK|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|loganrun: Seems that a claim should have come earlier|pg|| pg|| qx|o25|st||md|3SK7H876DKQ952C752,SQJ52HAKQ532DJ3CQ,SA963HJT4DT76CJT6,ST84H9DA84CAK9843|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|2D|mb|p!|mb|p|nt|athene: pass alerted because it denies three hearts, i suppose? (support doubles)|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|athene: now what from Helgemo? 3@H? 3@D?|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: ok, simple bid :)|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dA|nt|jesperdall: It is worth noticing how HH make things easy for partner|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pg|| nt|odysseus69: ev en small spade wont stop 10 trics|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|d4|pc|h7|pg|| nt|athene: @HAKQ, @CAK throwing @DJ, then noodle around with spades|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pc|d8|pc|h8|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| nt|athene: i am not sure quite what form his noodling will take|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|dJ|pc|cT|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|dT|pc|c3|pc|dQ|pc|h2|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|sK|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c25|st||md|3SK7H876DKQ952C752,SQJ52HAKQ532DJ3CQ,SA963HJT4DT76CJT6,ST84H9DA84CAK9843|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: but hanlon did force NS to decide which player got the last 2 tricks|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C!|an|precision|mb|p|nt|loganrun: Do fantunes keep a reord of who takes more tricks in defence?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@C = 11-16 a) 6+@C or 5@C 4M 1OM|pg|| mb|2H!|mb|p|nt|HedyG: i doubt it |pg|| mb|3C|an|minimum|nt|ahollan1: 2@H = F1|pg|| mb|p|nt|HedyG: they dont compete with each other|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 3@C = 6@C, in|pg|| nt|HedyG: you dont preserve a partnership for something like 30 years that way|pg|| nt|vugraphzcu: Hedy I caught a small glimpse of Nunes' book in bag, it seems to be titled wessun ullo e seguro|pg|| nt|loganrun: Joke Hedy (Australian humour)|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: good one chris - with an end-of-year bonus for most tricks one|pg|| nt|ahollan1: won|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|d7|nt|ahollan1: immediate 3@H would have been nat, FG and 2@D followed by 3@H would be natural game force|pg|| nt|ahollan1: only immediate 3@H would NOT find 44 @S fit|pg|| nt|ahollan1: not really sure about the difference with the other sequence choices|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d3|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|c3|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pc|d4|pc|h8|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|dJ|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c7|nt|loganrun: With hearts and clubs are known to be breaking Fantonit made an attacking passive lead|pg|| pc|h2|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sK|pg|| pc|dK|pc|h5|pc|dT|pc|d8|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s7|pg|| pc|d6|pc|c8|pc|dQ|pc|h3|pg|| mc|10|nt|vugraphzcu: actually I think it's nessun luogo e seguro :)|pg|| pg|| qx|o26|st||md|4ST842HA52DT9642CQ,SJ63H74DAJ75C9652,S5HKJT863DQ3CAKJ8,SAKQ97HQ9DK8CT743|sv|b|nt|athene: finessing the 8 was surely the percentage play because south was pretty much marked with the @SK on the bidding|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|s5|pg|| nt|jesperdall: So, who do you play for the Q@h?|pg|| nt|athene: well @DK now|pg|| nt|jesperdall: West, as he has only three spades?|pg|| nt|eamongall: ah now go easy ...its hard enough getting imps without encouraging Tor to kill us |pg|| pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|d7|nt|athene: he can still do it - in fact this might make life easier|pg|| nt|jesperdall: True|pg|| pc|hK|pc|c3|pc|d6|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| nt|athene: now another guess :)|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|h9|pg|| mc|10|nt|athene: when Helness tells his wife about this hand, he gives himself singleton @HQ|pg|| nt|athene: "and then, my partner took the setting trick with the @H9xx!"|pg|| nt|jesperdall: ;)|pg|| nt|athene: "well done, Tor!"|pg|| pg|| qx|c26|st||md|4ST842HA52DT9642CQ,SJ63H74DAJ75C9652,S5HKJT863DQ3CAKJ8,SAKQ97HQ9DK8CT743|sv|b|nt|ahollan1: ireland started the set 7 VP ahead of 9th place iceland which is having trouble against slovenia|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2D!|an|major|nt|ahollan1: croatia has moved into 9th with iceland now 10th|pg|| nt|loganrun: An accountant Bill|pg|| mb|2S|nt|ahollan1: ireland still 8th but only by 4VPs|pg|| nt|HedyG: sorry computer froze|pg|| nt|ahollan1: that's been happening to me too Hedy -- i wonder if really a BBO or venue issue|pg|| mb|d!|nt|loganrun: Is it winter in Switzerland Hedy? (another joke)|pg|| mb|p|nt|HedyG: wanted to apologize to Chris, not being anglophone i dont always get the finer jokes |pg|| nt|HedyG: it is summer here, warm|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|loganrun: But your computer froze|pg|| mb|p|nt|HedyG: lol yes|pg|| nt|ahollan1: at the end of the day [1 match after this] top 9 from each group advance|pg|| pc|sK|nt|ahollan1: cold heart?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: ice in veins|pg|| nt|HedyG: moi??|pg|| nt|ahollan1: give me a break 6 a.m and i've been awake for over 5 hours|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s5|pg|| nt|HedyG: have some coffee|pg|| nt|ahollan1: starting tomorrow the advancers "complete the round robin" by playing the 9 teams from the other group|pg|| nt|loganrun: Al in Australia, we keep the same hours to watch the World Cup|pg|| nt|ahollan1: at the end top 3 medal top 6 countries earn berth to 2015 Bermuda Bowl|pg|| nt|loganrun: Played at 2:00am and 6:00am our time|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i have never lost any sleep over world cup |pg|| pc|h9|pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hT|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i wish but know it won't be the last time http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/results.htm top level page for running scores|pg|| mc|10|nt|HedyG: Bill Jacobs ( author of Fantunes Revealed) and Yuan Shen are providing audio commentary at this table on the web program|pg|| nt|ahollan1: but i don't lose sleep over other forms of boreball [baseball immediately comes to mind]|pg|| pg|| qx|o27|st||md|1S8HAKQDAT875CKT93,SK7632H8753DK32CA,SA94HJT964DQ94CQ7,SQJT5H2DJ6CJ86542|sv|o|mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: time to bid hearts|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|s2|pg|| nt|odysseus69: got the hang of leading trumps|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sT|nt|jesperdall: Great lead = we have all other suits stopped, cut down on ruffs|pg|| pc|d7|pc|s3|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hQ|nt|Aurora: Running scores here Open group A: http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=1023&qshowflag=1|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h4|pg|| nt|Aurora: Live video from this table here on Channel 3: http://livebridge.net/youtube/|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c2|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|sJ|pc|hK|pg|| nt|jesperdall: Another nine of trumps playing an important part here...|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|sQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|s6|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s9|mc|8|nt|jesperdall: Now down two only|pg|| pg|| qx|c27|st||md|1S8HAKQDAT875CKT93,SK7632H8753DK32CA,SA94HJT964DQ94CQ7,SQJT5H2DJ6CJ86542|sv|o|mb|1D!|mb|1S|nt|ahollan1: 1@D = forcing 14+ hcp 5+@D or 4441@C|pg|| nt|HedyG: 1@D=14+ nat f1|pg|| mb|2H|mb|4S|nt|HedyG: grrrrrrr do you have prepared texts Al?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: :) i was prepared|pg|| nt|HedyG: lol|pg|| nt|loganrun: Boy scout training|pg|| mb|p|an|forcing pass|nt|ahollan1: we saw earlier hand where Nunes opened 1@C with 5@D(332)|pg|| mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i was dropped by boy scouts -- failed knot tying|pg|| pc|s4|nt|HedyG: so as we can see pass over 4@s was forcing for pd to bid|pg|| nt|vugraphzcu: McGann was asking Nunes what would've his X over 4@S be. "Interest to play in 4@SX" :)|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s8|pc|s3|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|h7|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|d5|nt|HedyG: nice @D switch|pg|| nt|loganrun: Sort of auto switch|pg|| nt|ahollan1: we don't know yet which matches will be on vugraph for next set -- very dependent upon standings after this round|pg|| nt|HedyG: J@H might have been preferential|pg|| nt|loganrun: McGann will get this right|pg|| nt|HedyG: easier without the J@D in hand|pg|| nt|loganrun: But he will go 2 off |pg|| pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|d6|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|s5|pc|hK|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|sT|pc|hA|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|s2|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|sJ|pc|d7|pg|| pc|c5|nt|HedyG: results and running scores: www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/results.htm|pg|| pc|cT|pc|s6|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sA|pc|c6|pc|d8|pc|s7|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|cK|pc|sK|pc|hT|pc|c8|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|cJ|pc|dT|pg|| pg|| qx|o28|st||md|2SA96HAJ4DKQ542C74,S83HK986DAJT83C85,SQJT42HQT7D97CAJ3,SK75H532D6CKQT962|sv|n|nt|jesperdall: If Helgemo had played clubs from dummy, down three|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|d|mb|1H|nt|jesperdall: Hmm, I would have expected Tor to open 3@c here, 3rd hand|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|nt|athene: interesting whether south should double or bid 1@D|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|jesperdall: I would overcall, but a matter of style|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|dA|nt|odysseus69: maybe he believes that 3rd hand preempts of 3C are ineffective and 1C works better|pg|| pc|d7|pg|| nt|athene: not too interesting here; he'll lose the ruff and @HK and a club for 140|pg|| nt|jesperdall: And be happy to see that 4@s is not on|pg|| nt|jesperdall: I am not sure he was happy when dummy was put down|pg|| nt|odysseus69: when you watch H-H you dont get many comparisons|pg|| nt|athene: of course it's not automatic to return a diamond|pg|| nt|athene: a club might be good|pg|| nt|athene: you might argue that east would not have led a singleton if he didn't want a ruff|pg|| nt|athene: but the singleton might have been his safest lead, if he has @CAQ or @CKJ or something|pg|| nt|athene: still, you have to ask why not lead a heart in that case?|pg|| nt|jesperdall: Geir is looking for a way to beat 3@s - obviously having trouble finding one...|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|c4|pg|| nt|athene: not giving the ruff didn't cost, of course|pg|| nt|athene: if declarer has to ruff the @C3 he will lose a trump trick|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c7|nt|athene: basically helgemo could see that if he gave the ruff, that would leave the @DK for a later pitch, and also use up one of east's (probably) three trumps|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cA|pg|| nt|athene: so it was probably going to break even at best|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|s9|pc|h8|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s6|nt|odysseus69: diamond ruff gone forever|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg|| nt|jesperdall: careful...|pg|| nt|athene: oops|pg|| nt|athene: now a heart and you can't stop the diamond ruff|pg|| nt|eamongall: well I heard the current world number 1 back in 2006 talking about the best player in world |pg|| nt|odysseus69: he thinks the king of hearts is with East becos of that opening bid |pg|| nt|eamongall: Norway was mention and we presumed Helgemo |pg|| nt|eamongall: turned out it was Helness as he seldom makes a mistake |pg|| pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|hK|nt|jesperdall: Among the top players, Helness is surely regarded as at the very top|pg|| pc|h7|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d9|pc|s7|pc|d2|pg|| mc|8|nt|odysseus69: you were right all along Bill - early diamond ruff no good|pg|| nt|jesperdall: Arh, we all saw that, didn't we? ;)|pg|| pg|| qx|c28|st||md|2SA96HAJ4DKQ542C74,S83HK986DAJT83C85,SQJT42HQT7D97CAJ3,SK75H532D6CKQT962|sv|n|mb|p|nt|bebechira: this is the last BBO session of the day http://livebridge.net/bbo/session.php?eventid=1024&sessionid=21|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C!|an|prec, alerted as can be light|nt|HedyG: 2@s opening doesnt work here?|pg|| nt|HedyG: Al?|pg|| nt|HedyG: oh too balanced |pg|| nt|vugraphzcu: McGann joking to Hanlon: "You're preempting for both of us now?" :)|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@C = 10-16, 6+@C or 5@C 4M 1OM|pg|| nt|HedyG: 2@s would be unbalanced, i thought i saw @D singleton|pg|| nt|ahollan1: but 3rd seat all requirements can be .....|pg|| nt|HedyG: yes but not in 2nd|pg|| nt|loganrun: 3NT perhaps here|pg|| mb|3S!|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|nt|ahollan1: as Hedy alluded NS do NOT have ANY normal weak 2 opener's|pg|| pc|c4|nt|HedyG: OT stopped in 3@s|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 3@S probably alerted to let opp know that those hands can be included in the bid|pg|| nt|HedyG: if he ducks this @d switch is coming|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c3|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2x openers are 10-13, 5+suit unbal [6+suit or some singleton/void] but NOT @H & @S|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d9|pc|s5|pc|d2|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg|| nt|HedyG: another @D for promotion now|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i got a promotion once|pg|| pc|dT|nt|ahollan1: led to nothing but grief|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sK|nt|HedyG: lol|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| mc|8|nt|vugraphzcu: defense verbally surrendered :)|pg|| nt|HedyG: :)|pg|| pg|| qx|o29|st||md|3S8764HK82DT974C73,SJT92HJ94DKJ8CKT4,SK3HT653DQ632CQJ6,SAQ5HAQ7DA5CA9852|sv|b|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jesperdall: Speaking of the Norgaskians, og whatever HH are now:|pg|| pc|h2|nt|jesperdall: Helgemo is more of a feel player, while Helness is mr. Odds|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|jesperdall: Relatively speaking|pg|| nt|eamongall: in group B as mentioned in voice broadcast Italy fighting for their lives but LAtvia in 9th currently playing England and behind and have Poland in final room while Italy tackle ...|pg|| nt|eamongall: Wales |pg|| pc|c2|pc|c7|nt|jesperdall: And both are nice at the table, I can assure you|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c6|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| nt|DaMan: http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/Results.htm|pg|| pc|c5|nt|athene: now a small club|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pg|| mc|12|nt|athene: playing the ace would not work out well if north started with @CQJxx|pg|| nt|jesperdall: Friendly, except when it comes to distributing the tricks ;)|pg|| nt|eamongall: voice comentary mentioning Ireland Belgium fighting it out in Seniors for last qualifier and they meet in the final round too |pg|| pg|| qx|c29|st||md|3S8764HK82DT974C73,SJT92HJ94DKJ8CKT4,SK3HT653DQ632CQJ6,SAQ5HAQ7DA5CA9852|sv|b|mb|p|mb|2N!|nt|HedyG: Al maybe you know more than i do but about the matches as of tomorrow..|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s4|nt|HedyG: the matches of the next session: http://livebridge.net/bbo/session.php?eventid=1024&sessionid=21|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2N 19-21|pg|| nt|vugraphzcu: next session starts in 60 mins|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| nt|HedyG: yes ty|pg|| nt|ahollan1: drat i'd been checking for next round lineup but hedy got there first|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c4|nt|HedyG: if i have read the info correct tomorrow morning is the general assembly..|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|HedyG: lol i have my sources :)|pg|| nt|vugraphzcu: better than mine and I'm at the spot :)|pg|| nt|HedyG: :)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: next set is the last for the Seniors |pg|| nt|ahollan1: start times moved up today to account for the Seniors' Closing Ceremony|pg|| nt|HedyG: so 3 matches starting tomorrow at 12 30 CET|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h4|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|d3|pg|| pc|sT|pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|s8|pg|| nt|HedyG: and then 3 each Monday and Tuesday but we dont have the starting times yet|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cQ|pc|c5|mc|11|nt|HedyG: but i bet on 10 30 AM CET|pg|| pg|| qx|o30|st||md|4SJ8654HKQJ52DJ7CK,SAKQ3H98DAQ64C853,S9H7643D8532CAT96,ST72HATDKT9CQJ742|sv|o|nt|odysseus69: strange not to have 3 world class Italian pairs -cant remember when this didnt happen|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|hA|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|s9|pg|| nt|odysseus69: Carroll wishing he had opened 1H |pg|| pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|s5|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|h9|pg|| pc|h2|mc|8|nt|jesperdall: -100, please|pg|| pg|| qx|c30|st||md|4SJ8654HKQJ52DJ7CK,SAKQ3H98DAQ64C853,S9H7643D8532CAT96,ST72HATDKT9CQJ742|sv|o|mb|1C!|mb|2D!|nt|loganrun: If I were rating leads with the discussion going on - I think at imps 2 hearts lead is best (but would cost an imp here)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@C = forcing a) BAL, 11-13 b) 17+|pg|| nt|HedyG: 10 30, 14 30 and 17 20|pg|| nt|loganrun: As it did|pg|| nt|ahollan1: at the very end each event identifies SIX countries that will play in 2015 world championships|pg|| mb|d|nt|Aurora: Thanks to all Commentators, operators and kibitzes. See you in 1 hour for another session: http://livebridge.net/bbo/session.php?eventid=1024&sessionid=21|pg|| mb|3H!|mb|p|nt|Aurora: All results here: http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/Results.htm|pg|| mb|p|nt|HedyG: in Italy Ghestem is popular and over both 1@c and 1@d 2@d is majors, 2@c would be natural|pg|| nt|loganrun: Darn they bid hearts|pg|| mb|3S|nt|HedyG: surely important where most play 4 card @D and 1@c is 2+|pg|| nt|HedyG: lol Chris|pg|| mb|p|an|alerted|mb|3N|nt|eamongall: tough board for Ireland to find any plus score on |pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|eamongall: believe|pg|| mb|4H|nt|ahollan1: was Ghestem French or Swiss?|pg|| nt|eamongall: French I beleive |pg|| nt|ahollan1: should have trusted my first guess|pg|| nt|eamongall: come to mama |pg|| nt|vugraphzcu: ooops sorry, auction not ended|pg|| mb|d|nt|HedyG: French i think|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|eamongall: presume we can beat this 4@Hs |pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h9|nt|loganrun: French is correct Pierre ghestem|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| nt|ahollan1: ah it was Ghestem - Bacherich i was thinking about Besse|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d7|nt|HedyG: Besse was Swiss|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|d3|pg|| nt|vugraphzcu: they were asking all previous bids, I assumed auction was going to end in 3NT|pg|| nt|ahollan1: right Hedy that's why i was unsure about Ghestem [because i wasn't sure about his partner]|pg|| nt|vugraphzcu: Fantoni's pass over 3@S was alerted|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|hK|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|s2|pg|| nt|HedyG: i believe they did play together on at least 1 occasion|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|cK|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|h6|pc|s7|pg|| nt|ahollan1: sure that's the one i was thinking of [heavy sarcasm]|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cJ|pc|h5|pc|c5|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|h7|pc|sT|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|s8|pc|c8|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|hJ|pc|d4|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|d5|pc|c7|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|ahollan1: there were a few pairs in the recent USBC [usa1 trials] playing Ghestem rather than Michaels|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Michaels over 1M showing OM and unknown minor -- where Ghestem always shows specific 2-suits|pg|| pg|| qx|o31|st||md|1SAQ96H7DKT93CK985,S2HAQJ832D8642C74,SJ53HK954DAJ7C632,SKT874HT6DQ5CAQJT|sv|n|mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|c4|pg|| nt|vugraphzct: i think thay blocked the harts|pg|| nt|jesperdall: I get a lot of questions about the format of the tournament - any helpful links?|pg|| nt|athene: if anyone is wondering why Helgemo didn't overcall 2@H - they use that to show 4 hearts and long clubs and an opening hand|pg|| nt|eamongall: tournament format can be found on ecatsbridge but its a long document |pg|| nt|eamongall: let me look|pg|| nt|athene: the idea is that with a weak jump overcall type hand you can usually survive ok with a simple overcall|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|athene: but if you have, say, 2-4-2-5, you are more stuck over 1@D|pg|| nt|chmitty: format is "easy" lol|pg|| nt|chmitty: first 9 teams qualified in both groups after today's last match|pg|| nt|DaMan: http://www.eurobridge.org/52nd-ebl-team-championships.aspx|pg|| nt|chmitty: they keep 100% of the VP scored against other top 8 plus ....|pg|| nt|chmitty: a carry over depending of their results against the eliminated teams :)|pg|| nt|eamongall: http://www.eurobridge.org/format.aspx ...the short version |pg|| nt|chmitty: and in the second phase they play a new round robin against the 9 teams of the other group|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dQ|pc|d9|pc|d2|pg|| nt|athene: people might be wondering why helgemo didn't throw his spade loser on a club when he had the chance|pg|| nt|athene: but he can afford to lose a spade and a trump from here|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|h2|pc|s3|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d7|pc|h6|pc|dT|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s6|pc|h3|pc|s5|pg|| pc|d4|pc|sJ|pc|hT|pc|dK|pg|| nt|athene: and cashing the club earlier might expose him to other dangers even if it stood up|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|hJ|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h8|nt|athene: north tries desperately to avoid getting endplayed|pg|| pc|h5|nt|athene: but there is nothing he can do|pg|| pc|sT|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|cA|pc|c8|pg|| pc|h9|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|hA|pg|| pg|| qx|c31|st||md|1SAQ96H7DKT93CK985,S2HAQJ832D8642C74,SJ53HK954DAJ7C632,SKT874HT6DQ5CAQJT|sv|n|mb|1N!|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: ah an atypical shape for 1N that is actually dictated by system|pg|| nt|vugraphzcu: thanks it's been an easy and fun match with all of you spectators :)|pg|| pc|c6|nt|ahollan1: because of 1x and 2x suit opening requirments in fantues 1N becomes the default opener|pg|| nt|ahollan1: they also have to open 1N with (52)(42)|pg|| nt|eamongall: Hanlon and McGann did lots of competitive bidding training with me giving the Gib robots shape hands to interfere |pg|| nt|HedyG: if they manage to take all their tricks this is -1|pg|| nt|athene: two off i think|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|c7|pg|| nt|HedyG: well one leass now|pg|| nt|athene: you will lose a club, a spade, two diamonds and two trumps, or else another diamond|pg|| nt|HedyG: he will not lose a @c|pg|| nt|athene: yes but now you have a lot of diamond losers|pg|| nt|loganrun: Invariably when I lead passively I kill partner's holding (but I would have led a club here)|pg|| nt|athene: the clubs are dead so the defence can just play trumps now; you aren't getting any diamond ruffs|pg|| nt|HedyG: 7@C now shows that the 6 was not from a doubleton|pg|| nt|ahollan1: next round a lot of drama to determine the bottom [9th] qualifier|pg|| nt|loganrun: 7 hearts looks right here|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Group A has the closest group|pg|| nt|eamongall: if anyone is watching the video .. Hanlon has left and Grainne Barton Ireland NPC has taken over the dummy |pg|| pc|hT|pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|hK|pg|| nt|eamongall: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyuYM6o_-Jg|pg|| nt|eamongall: take away the s|pg|| nt|vugraphzcu: South definately ducked the openning club|pg|| nt|HedyG: ok ty Jurica, he did kill the suit by doing so|pg|| nt|eamongall: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyuYM6o_-Jg|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d3|nt|athene: declarer thought that the @CK was onside and hence the @HK was too|pg|| pc|d4|nt|athene: now the roof falls in|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h6|nt|athene: dummy is dead|pg|| pc|s6|nt|ahollan1: wow on my video feed Hanlon just left so feed delay is different for western usa vs ireland|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| nt|eamongall: now mcgann is getting chinned |pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h4|pc|s4|pc|c8|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h5|nt|loganrun: This is excellent defence|pg|| pc|s7|pc|c9|pg|| nt|eamongall: thats your slow USA internet |pg|| nt|HedyG: i see Hanlon|pg|| nt|athene: in the other room Helgemo took all his tricks and a few of the defenders'|pg|| nt|ahollan1: our internet tubes get clogged|pg|| nt|athene: north eventually got endplayed in trumps|pg|| mc|6|nt|ahollan1: fantunes had yet-another-great set|pg|| pg|| qx|o32|st||md|2SKT8H74DK874CAKT2,SJ765HADJ32CQJ763,SQ942HKJT95DTC954,SA3HQ8632DAQ965C8|sv|e|nt|vugraphzct: last board thx all|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|nt|odysseus69: last board already - no time penalty|pg|| mb|d|nt|vugraphzct: next match in 1h|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2D|nt|odysseus69: very interested to see what Helgemo does here.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: now will north try 2@S?|pg|| mb|p|pc|d4|nt|DaMan: http://www.bridgebase.com/vugraph/schedule.php|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|odysseus69: I do hate the 1S bid - bidding a weak suit after the double feels so wrong to me but I keep seeng it|pg|| pc|h2|nt|athene: yes, we saw on 28 as well|pg|| nt|athene: after 1@C double, helgemo bid a weak heart suit rather than a good diamond suit|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c4|pc|c8|nt|athene: i guess HH have decided that major suits are where it's at :)|pg|| pc|cK|pg|| nt|eamongall: 3 imps for Ireland on the 3@S hand carroll was beaten 1 in |pg|| pc|dK|pc|d3|nt|eamongall: or maybe it was Tommy Garvey |pg|| pc|s2|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|dJ|pc|h9|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c5|pc|d5|pc|c2|pg|| pc|h6|pc|cT|pc|c3|pc|hT|pg|| nt|eamongall: Host Croatia are going like a fast train and have overtaken Iceland for the moment |pg|| nt|athene: now the key to the hand is not letting declarer score his @D6|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s3|nt|athene: so north did right to return the spade|pg|| mc|7|nt|eamongall: Bottom team Slovenia doing them a favour at the moment |pg|| nt|odysseus69: thx alll|pg|| nt|athene: many would have led a top club with the south hand here|pg|| nt|athene: but that would only have helped declarer|pg|| nt|eamongall: Several years ago I had 2 Croatian team mates in Ireland Dario Filjar and Iva Loncar |pg|| nt|eamongall: they lived here for some years |pg|| nt|vugraphzct: they dont play bridge so often now|pg|| nt|eamongall: Yes they have some kids I think |pg|| nt|eamongall: I was even allowed slip into a Croatian training session that PO was giving at Pula Congress|pg|| nt|Aurora: Thanks to all Commentators, operators and kibitzes. See you in 1 hour for another session: http://livebridge.net/bbo/session.php?eventid=1024&sessionid=21|pg|| nt|Aurora: All results here: http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/Results.htm|pg|| nt|eamongall: ok off to other room to see final boards |pg|| pg|| qx|c32|st||md|2SKT8H74DK874CAKT2,SJ765HADJ32CQJ763,SQ942HKJT95DTC954,SA3HQ8632DAQ965C8|sv|e|mb|p|nt|HedyG: last board for this match now|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|nt|HedyG: we would like to thank Jurica for fantastic operating!!|pg|| nt|ahollan1: hear hear|pg|| nt|vugraphzcu: play becomes lightning fast at the end especially when the board is "obvious"|pg|| mb|d|nt|eamongall: Hanlon and Fantoni have a laugh and a high 5 |pg|| mb|r|nt|ahollan1: final round of the Qualifying RR starts i about 40 minutes|pg|| nt|HedyG: my fellow commentators Al and Chris plus those who popped in, William, Eamon and i forget who else for guiding us through these boards|pg|| mb|1S|mb|2D|nt|eamongall: let me go see how is Italy doing |pg|| nt|ahollan1: 15 minutes past the hour|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: Carroll did very well to lead a trump against 2@D in the other room - many would lead a top club which would make declarer's life easier; he could then lead the @CQ and throw the ...|pg|| nt|athene: @S3|pg|| nt|HedyG: Bill and Yuan in voice commentary as well, thank you !|pg|| nt|athene: setting up a club trick|pg|| nt|vugraphzcu: "no double no trouble" was their "high-five moment" :)|pg|| mb|2S|mb|3D|nt|HedyG: and most of all our specs, thanks for joining and for the helpful comments! we hope you enjoyed the show|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|c8|pg|| nt|ahollan1: vugraph lineup for next round http://livebridge.net/bbo/session.php?eventid=1024&sessionid=21|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|athene: win queen, heart to ace, @CQ throwing @S3... this will play nicely now|pg|| nt|eamongall: Italy have 6.5 VPS to make up .. Latvia v Poland .. Italy v Wales .. but Wales won't be giving it up |pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c4|pc|s3|pc|cK|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sA|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|d3|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|ahollan1: it would be very strange if current Bermuda Bowl holding country was not represented in 2015|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c5|pc|h6|pc|c2|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|d6|pc|s8|pg|| pc|h8|pc|dK|nt|HedyG: not so strange under the circumstances?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: but their politics definitely reduced the quality of the team in Opatija|pg|| pc|s7|pc|hK|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dJ|pc|s9|nt|HedyG: yes the Lavazza team did not play the trials|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| mc|9|nt|eamongall: Indeed but even if they make the final 18 ... they probably have too much to make up with this weaker(but still dangerous) team |pg|| nt|ahollan1: restart in just over half-an-hour|pg|| nt|HedyG: bye for now!|pg|| nt|vugraphzcu: thank you, we'll be back very shortly. see you soon!|pg|| nt|eamongall: Well done Ireland on making 3@Ds when Helness failed but I have not studied the board |pg|| nt|eamongall: 40-21 is not terminal at all ... In 2012 Dublin Monaco chinned Ireland by 100+ imps on 20 board matches |pg|| nt|eamongall: Since then I think Ireland got a result in Cavendish teams v Monaco |pg|| pg||