vg|52nd EBTC-BBO3,OPEN-F5,I,17,32,ISRAEL,0,FRANCE,0| rs|PASS,PASS,4HE+1,4SW+1,1NN-1,1NN-1,2HE-2,3HE-2,1NW=,1NW=,6HS+1,6HS+1,5CS=,5CS=,2SE+1,3NW-1,1NE-1,1NE+1,4SWx-1,4SWx-1,2HN-1,2HN=,1SW+1,4SWx-2,1HE=,3CEx+1,3DW+1,2DE+2,7CN-1,7CN-1,3NE+1,3NE+1| pn|PADON,LEVY,A BIRMAN,VOLCKER,M BESSIS,I HERBST,T BESSIS,O HERBST|pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3S86HK642DQ52CK765,SAQ53HA85DT96CT84,SK72HJT7DAK83C932,SJT94HQ93DJ74CAQJ|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pg|| qx|c17|st||md|3S86HK642DQ52CK765,SAQ53HA85DT96CT84,SK72HJT7DAK83C932,SJT94HQ93DJ74CAQJ|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4S984HA7D76532C932,SKQ652HQJT52D9CAT,ST3H83DAKT8CKQJ76,SAJ7HK964DQJ4C854|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Tez: Hi all|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sA|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c4|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h8|pc|h6|pc|h7|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|s8|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s9|mc|11|pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4S984HA7D76532C932,SKQ652HQJT52D9CAT,ST3H83DAKT8CKQJ76,SAJ7HK964DQJ4C854|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2C|mb|3C!|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: hi good afternoon everyone|pg|| nt|athene: east would have liked to use Drury|pg|| nt|athene: 2@C took that away from him though|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|d9|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dJ|pc|d6|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s8|pc|s6|pc|sT|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|c6|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c4|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|h7|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o19|st||md|1SKQT82HK6DJ73CK52,SA64HJ93DAT2CAT83,S93HAT854D9854CQ6,SJ75HQ72DKQ6CJ974|sv|e|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c4|nt|Tez: http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=1020&qshowflag=1|pg|| nt|Tez: OPEN|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|Aurora: Hello all, welcome to the Final Round 22 |pg|| pc|s9|nt|Aurora: Running scores: http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=1020&qshowflag=1|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|nt|Tez: http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=1021&qshowflag=1|pg|| pc|h5|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|Tez: WOMEN|pg|| pc|dT|nt|Aurora: Live video from this table here on Channel 5: http://livebridge.net/youtube/|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|d3|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|d7|pg|| pc|c8|pc|d8|pc|c9|pc|c5|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|d9|pg|| pc|c7|pc|h6|pc|c3|pc|h4|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|c19|st||md|1SKQT82HK6DJ73CK52,SA64HJ93DAT2CAT83,S93HAT854D9854CQ6,SJ75HQ72DKQ6CJ974|sv|e|nt|athene: a bit surprising he did that|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|nt|athene: i would have thought a club shift looks normal|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c4|nt|athene: did he really think south was going to have a singleton diamond? i can't see when else you would need to continue them|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|h4|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|athene: i was assuming they played upside down carding|pg|| nt|athene: but i'm told the @D7 looked like a doubleton|pg|| nt|athene: maybe south encouraged diamonds because he didn't want a club shift|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|d3|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|d7|pg|| pc|c8|pc|d8|pc|c9|pc|c5|pg|| nt|athene: some are suggesting the @D7 may have been asking for a heart - perhaps to get south in to lead to north's @CAQ which he hasn't got :)|pg|| nt|Authau: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqUUutoJllY webcam pour cette table|pg|| mc|6|nt|athene: a good example of how you can get tangled up unless you have cast-iron rules about what signal you give in what position|pg|| pg|| qx|o20|st||md|2SK74HQ9D987653CAJ,SQ2HAKT6DKQCT7543,SAT5HJ85DAJT4CQ98,SJ9863H7432D2CK62|sv|b|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d9|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|c2|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|h9|pc|c5|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s4|pc|hT|pc|sT|pc|s8|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|d3|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|h4|pc|d5|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|c20|st||md|2SK74HQ9D987653CAJ,SQ2HAKT6DKQCT7543,SAT5HJ85DAJT4CQ98,SJ9863H7432D2CK62|sv|b|nt|Aurora: Hello all, welcome to the Final Round 22 |pg|| nt|Aurora: Running scores: http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=1020&qshowflag=1|pg|| nt|athene: just saying "we tell partner what he needs to know" doesn't cut it|pg|| mb|1C|mb|p|nt|Aurora: Live video from this table here on Channel 6: http://livebridge.net/youtube/|pg|| mb|1H!|mb|p|mb|1N!|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d7|nt|athene: 2@H not at all constructive so West should be passing it, systemically, you would think|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|c2|pg|| nt|athene: well, the good news is that 2@H wasn't making either :)|pg|| nt|athene: so raising it to 3@H loses only 100, rather than 210 :)|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|dT|pc|c6|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|h9|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|h7|pc|d5|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s5|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o21|st||md|3ST63H93DAQ43CAJ85,S874HAK4DT2CQT432,SA952HQ872D98C976,SKQJHJT65DKJ765CK|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Tez: king f @s and @s..and cash winner @c..pitch a @s(S) play @s..ruff with Q|pg|| pc|h2|nt|Tez: it was best..not imposible|pg|| nt|Tez: board 20|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|d8|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|s5|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c7|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|h6|pc|d4|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|d6|pc|c5|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|sQ|pc|sT|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hT|pc|c8|pc|d2|pg|| pc|s9|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|c3|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cT|pc|c9|pc|dK|pg|| pg|| qx|c21|st||md|3ST63H93DAQ43CAJ85,S874HAK4DT2CQT432,SA952HQ872D98C976,SKQJHJT65DKJ765CK|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h2|nt|ady: hi all|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h9|pc|h4|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|d9|pg|| nt|ady: now an easy 7 tricks|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| nt|ady: was never much the defence could do |pg|| pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|s7|pc|sA|pg|| pc|s9|pc|h5|pc|d3|pc|c2|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dA|pc|c3|pc|h7|pc|d6|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hQ|pc|hT|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c7|pc|d7|pc|c8|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c9|pc|dK|pc|cJ|pg|| pg|| qx|o22|st||md|4SA9874HJ9DKJTCAQ5,SKQT3H3DA875CT764,SJ5HAKQT87654D9CK,S62H2DQ6432CJ9832|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5H|mb|p|mb|6H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sA|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg|| pc|h5|pc|d2|pc|hJ|pc|c6|pg|| mc|13|pg|| qx|c22|st||md|4SA9874HJ9DKJTCAQ5,SKQT3H3DA875CT764,SJ5HAKQT87654D9CK,S62H2DQ6432CJ9832|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|ady: slam should be bid|pg|| mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|ady: not often a 9 card suit headed by AKQ|pg|| nt|athene: many top pairs now use transfer to hearts then 2@S artificially|pg|| mb|5D|mb|p|nt|athene: if you just have a hand with 5 hearts and 4 spades you can use smolen|pg|| mb|6H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: 4@S is Kickback i would guess|pg|| nt|athene: (RKCB for hearts)|pg|| pc|sK|nt|ady: now 13 tricks|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sA|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg|| pc|h5|mc|13|pg|| qx|o23|st||md|1SQHKJ8763DACQT763,SKT4HAT2DK7643CJ4,SJ532H9DJT95CAK82,SA9876HQ54DQ82C95|sv|b|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|dA|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|c9|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|s5|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hT|pc|c8|pc|hQ|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c23|st||md|1SQHKJ8763DACQT763,SKT4HAT2DK7643CJ4,SJ532H9DJT95CAK82,SA9876HQ54DQ82C95|sv|b|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|3C|nt|ady: 5@C for or 4@H for n/s|pg|| mb|p|mb|3H|nt|ady: 4@H not secure could lose 3 trump tricks and a spade |pg|| mb|p|nt|athene: will south pass 4@C now or give it a fifth?|pg|| nt|athene: he does have that crucial fifth club|pg|| mb|4C|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: but he does need partner to have two out of the @CAK @HA @SA|pg|| pc|d4|nt|athene: i guess sometimes partner has the @DK and they don't lead a spade, so you get that away :)|pg|| nt|athene: and even if you aren't down off the top, there is still work to do of course|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|c3|nt|athene: now, if he chooses, he can lead the @D10 throwing the @SQ, setting himself up one diamond trick in dummy|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| nt|athene: but surely that will not be especially relevant|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg|| nt|athene: either you bring in the long hearts or you don't|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|c6|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|c2|pc|h5|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|c7|pc|d7|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|c8|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pg|| mc|11|nt|ady: needed some luck|pg|| pg|| qx|o24|st||md|2ST8H98752DJ76CT72,SQJ72HQJT6DAQC643,SK96HAKD853CAJ985,SA543H43DKT942CKQ|sv|o|mb|1C|mb|1N|mb|d|mb|r|an|one suit |mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Tez: http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=1020&qshowflag=1|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h2|nt|Tez: i would double with Levy hand|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cK|pc|c2|nt|Tez: for pen|pg|| pc|c3|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|c7|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|d3|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|s8|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|sT|pg|| mc|9|nt|Tez: or with E, for takeout which will be left in|pg|| pg|| qx|c24|st||md|2ST8H98752DJ76CT72,SQJ72HQJT6DAQC643,SK96HAKD853CAJ985,SA543H43DKT942CKQ|sv|o|mb|1C|mb|1N|nt|athene: 1@C 1NT X perhaps? now NS run to hearts - and do they get doubled there?|pg|| mb|d|mb|2D!|nt|athene: can they be held to 3 trump tricks and the @CA, for 800?|pg|| mb|p!|mb|2H|nt|athene: i would expect them to sneak at least one more trick|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: well, this didn't work very well|pg|| nt|athene: only eight tricks available|pg|| nt|Authau: for Israel you mean ?|pg|| nt|athene: 3@H is an ugly bid, in my opinion|pg|| nt|athene: east should double if takeout or pass if forcing|pg|| nt|athene: if double is penalty and pass is NOT forcing, that is bad methods|pg|| nt|athene: because then you are always stuck with a good hand without a penalty double and you have to bid in front of partner and let opponents off the hook|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|c6|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|d7|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|s8|pg|| nt|athene: sometimes in these situations the defender with the strength gets squeezed in three suits on the run of the diamonds|pg|| nt|athene: but that just doesn't apply here|pg|| nt|athene: because declarer has to use up the @SA to reach the diamonds which relinquishes control|pg|| nt|athene: so north has only winners in his hand, and he simply keeps five of them|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|sT|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dJ|pc|c3|pc|d8|pg|| pc|dT|pc|h2|pc|s7|pc|c5|pg|| pc|d9|pc|h5|pc|c4|pc|c9|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o25|st||md|3SJ93HAK4DK62C9754,SQ864HJ95DQ873CQ3,SK75HT86D954CKJ62,SAT2HQ732DAJTCAT8|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d4|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|c8|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|c7|pc|s4|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d6|pc|d8|pc|d9|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|s6|pg|| pc|c9|pc|s8|pc|c6|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|h8|pc|h7|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|c25|st||md|3SJ93HAK4DK62C9754,SQ864HJ95DQ873CQ3,SK75HT86D954CKJ62,SAT2HQ732DAJTCAT8|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: as specs are pointing out, it would have been tougher if north had covered the @SQ|pg|| mb|p|nt|athene: because then declarer can run the diamonds with a first-round spade control (his jack in hand)|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h6|nt|athene: the defence should still prevail but they have to tread more carefully|pg|| pc|h7|pg|| nt|athene: the 3-suit squeeze on north is closer to working then|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|h8|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d7|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|d9|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|c8|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cT|pc|c5|pc|s4|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|hT|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|c2|pc|sT|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s9|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|c9|pc|s8|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| nt|athene: heart lead gave away too much here|pg|| nt|athene: well, cashing the second one did, for sure :)|pg|| pg|| qx|o26|st||md|4S97HQJT842DJ83CA7,SK8643H9DA6CKJT85,SATHAK3DKQTCQ9643,SQJ52H765D97542C2|sv|b|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|2S|mb|4H|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|h9|pg|| nt|Tez: 4@h makeable..4@s only 200|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|s4|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c3|pg|| nt|Tez: Well bid Volcer|pg|| pc|h8|pc|s6|pc|hK|pc|h6|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|d2|pc|c7|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c6|pc|s5|pc|h2|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c26|st||md|4S97HQJT842DJ83CA7,SK8643H9DA6CKJT85,SATHAK3DKQTCQ9643,SQJ52H765D97542C2|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|d|nt|athene: maybe the @h6 didn't get read - a slight question-mark over NS's defensive signalling this set for sure|pg|| mb|3S!|mb|4H|mb|4S|nt|athene: no weak-2@H opener available for NS, i believe|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|h9|pg|| nt|davisbiz: Looks like the par result here|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s4|nt|davisbiz: All nine matches in this round still pretty tight: Poland only leader making any real progress|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|s6|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c3|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|dT|pc|d2|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|d4|pc|c7|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c6|pc|s5|pc|h4|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o27|st||md|1SJT9HAQ3DQT4CJ965,SKQ74H84DJ72CK742,S53HKJT92DK96CQ83,SA862H765DA853CAT|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h6|nt|Tez: i would bid 2@s with E hand..balancing position|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|cT|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c4|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|s4|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cQ|pc|s6|pc|c9|pg|| pc|c7|nt|Tez: http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=1020&qshowflag=1|pg|| pc|h9|pc|d3|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|s7|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|dA|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c27|st||md|1SJT9HAQ3DQT4CJ965,SKQ74H84DJ72CK742,S53HKJT92DK96CQ83,SA862H765DA853CAT|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2C!|nt|athene: some would double 1@H with the east hand|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|nt|athene: but three small hearts is an ugly holding|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: now west should balance, though|pg|| nt|athene: at love-all, one does not simply let the opponents play in two of things|pg|| mb|p|pc|h6|nt|athene: ok, now they may have lost their chance for a club ruff|pg|| nt|athene: and declarer can in theory make, just losing two spades, two clubs and the diamond, but he has a lot of cards to find|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|h9|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| nt|athene: declarer does know quite a bit about the EW hands|pg|| nt|athene: they have 21 hcp between them and 8 spades but they didn't bid|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|athene: so the points have to be split and probably both hands are balanced with the spades 4-4|pg|| pc|c2|pc|hT|pc|h7|pg|| nt|athene: all this, unfortunately, doesn't really help with the vital questions: who has the @DJ and @C10?|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| nt|davisbiz: Monaco picked up 14 imps on 26 by taking 4Sx off three (!) and 5H off one in the other room|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d3|nt|athene: difficult for east|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d7|pc|d9|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s9|pg|| nt|athene: the answer is, don't defend these hands :)|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pg|| mc|8|nt|athene: i guess declarer is trying to find out as much as possible before playing the club|pg|| pg|| qx|o28|st||md|2SQJ84HAJ732DQ2C86,SAK75H9DAT87CAQT4,S6HKQTDKJ943CJ952,ST932H8654D65CK73|sv|n|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|cT|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|d5|pc|d2|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sK|pc|d4|pc|s3|pc|s8|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dJ|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|c2|pc|sT|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h2|pc|s7|pc|hQ|pc|h5|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c7|pc|h3|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h7|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|h8|pc|hJ|pg|| pg|| qx|c28|st||md|2SQJ84HAJ732DQ2C86,SAK75H9DAT87CAQT4,S6HKQTDKJ943CJ952,ST932H8654D65CK73|sv|n|nt|athene: but it's pretty much impossible east should have @CAK|pg|| nt|athene: so he was going to finesse against the @C10 even if it didn't appear|pg|| mb|1C|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|2H|mb|2S|mb|3H|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|athene: interesting whether support doubles should apply here (north raising to 2@H)|pg|| nt|athene: if 1@H only promises 4+ you might argue they should|pg|| mb|4S|nt|athene: wow|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|nt|athene: east sure likes his @CK|pg|| pc|h4|nt|Turbin: Good afternoon. Ciao a tutti :)|pg|| nt|davisbiz: Another swing to the French - strange bid indeed; hoping pd is void H maybe but even so |pg|| nt|Turbin: Women Team Running score...|pg|| nt|Turbin: http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=1021&qshowflag=1|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h9|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|s5|pc|hT|nt|Turbin: Ciao Jonathan :)|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|s4|pg|| nt|davisbiz: ciao paolo|pg|| pc|sK|pc|d3|pc|s3|pc|s8|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|c6|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|s7|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|c8|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c9|pc|c7|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|athene: the @H8 seems to have become a winner|pg|| nt|athene: how did that happen?|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d4|pc|s9|pg|| nt|davisbiz: Monaco now extending their lead at the top but very tight in places 3 to 7 |pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o29|st||md|3SKJ94HQ7DJ532CKQ8,SAQ7HAT654DQ87C52,S8653HKJ93DA964CT,ST2H82DKTCAJ97643|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c2|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|sT|pc|s9|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s6|pc|h2|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h9|pc|c3|pc|h7|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|c4|pc|d2|pg|| pc|hK|pc|c6|pc|d3|pc|h5|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d7|pg|| pc|d9|pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|d8|pg|| pc|d6|pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|hT|pg|| pc|c5|pc|s8|pc|cJ|pc|sK|pg|| pg|| qx|c29|st||md|3SKJ94HQ7DJ532CKQ8,SAQ7HAT654DQ87C52,S8653HKJ93DA964CT,ST2H82DKTCAJ97643|sv|b|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|nt|davisbiz: S overtook K with Ace and returned J....then 10 came down|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: i thought it was just one down?|pg|| nt|athene: maybe the @HJ was not really returned|pg|| nt|athene: @HJ was indeed a very strange card|pg|| nt|davisbiz: y could well be....JH strange on any layout|pg|| pc|s9|nt|davisbiz: A reminder that you can access convetnion cards by clicking on the player name and then the c.c icon|pg|| nt|athene: finessing the queen here would only really be right if south led from the king but not the jack|pg|| nt|Turbin: Open Running score: http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=1020&qshowflag=1|pg|| nt|athene: and i don't think that is at all consistent with the lead of the 9|pg|| nt|athene: so you might as well duck completely|pg|| nt|athene: leading 3/5th, south can't have @SKxxx for the lead of the 9|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s6|pc|sT|pg|| nt|davisbiz: and then you can make an overtrick as the cards lie|pg|| nt|athene: well, he may lay down the ace of trumps now|pg|| nt|athene: and if trumps are 4-0, he takes the spade finesse for the contract|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sQ|nt|athene: actually you can afford to take the spade finesse anyway|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|h8|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|athene: even if it loses to the king you get a heart away on the @SA so no harm done|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|c3|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|d6|pg|| nt|athene: now he noodles a little, hoping for some trump reduction and endplay perhaps?|pg|| pc|cA|nt|athene: i can't see it ever happening; you might as well stick the @CA on the table|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c2|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|d4|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o30|st||md|4SQ84HQT73D9CK6543,SKJ63H5DQJ7654CQJ,ST52HJ842DA32CA72,SA97HAK96DKT8CT98|sv|o|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h5|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d9|pc|d4|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d8|pc|c5|pc|d5|pc|dA|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|cQ|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c30|st||md|4SQ84HQT73D9CK6543,SKJ63H5DQJ7654CQJ,ST52HJ842DA32CA72,SA97HAK96DKT8CT98|sv|o|mb|1C|mb|p|nt|davisbiz: N's double the real culprit here I guess|pg|| mb|1H!|mb|p|mb|1S!|mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|p|nt|davisbiz: Well it is certainly livening up after a slow start......|pg|| mb|p|nt|Turbin: The inventor of Takeout Double was Bryant McCampbell in 1915. He said: If your business doubles always succeeded, maybe you're doubling too little :)|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|cJ|pc|h2|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d9|pc|d4|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d8|pc|c3|pc|dQ|nt|davisbiz: True, but this may be taking it to extremes, vul against vul|pg|| pc|d2|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c4|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dT|nt|davisbiz: I read a study somewhere that 3C is the most successful opening bid of all...|pg|| pc|c5|pc|d5|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|d6|pg|| nt|athene: you mean of all the hands where one table opened 3@C and the other didn't, 3@C gained most imps on average?|pg|| mc|10|nt|davisbiz: EW use transfers so 1H showed spades and 2C diamonds|pg|| pg|| qx|o31|st||md|1SAQJ864HAT3DJCA65,SKT92HQJ842DK72CJ,S3HK76DAQ8CKQ9874,S75H95DT96543CT32|sv|n|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|5D|mb|d|mb|7C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d6|nt|Tez: not easy to make..with open cards yes makeable|pg|| nt|Tez: ace of @d king of @d..pitch a @h..@d ruff..ace of @h king of @h..@h ruff..east pitch a @s..down now|pg|| nt|Tez: with open cards..ruffing finesse @s working|pg|| nt|Tez: he cant play for sqz i thk|pg|| nt|Tez: easy to look 4 hand|pg|| nt|Tez: i bet..east will take 1@c|pg|| nt|Tez: Thomas Bessi played my line..normal down 1|pg|| nt|Tez: i know he can make with open cards|pg|| nt|Tez: they have 20 minutes more|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| nt|Aurora: Running scores: http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=1020&qshowflag=1|pg|| nt|Aurora: Thanks to all Commentators, operators and kibitzes. See you in around 1 hour for another session: http://livebridge.net/bbo/session.php?eventid=1024&sessionid=27|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|c4|pc|s7|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|c8|pc|cT|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c31|st||md|1SAQJ864HAT3DJCA65,SKT92HQJ842DK72CJ,S3HK76DAQ8CKQ9874,S75H95DT96543CT32|sv|n|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|nt|athene: 7@C is playable here but not marvellous|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|nt|athene: 6@C looks normal|pg|| nt|athene: 3@S might bury the clubs - unless it shows something like 6 spades 3 clubs|pg|| mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|nt|davisbiz: Well that might have been true as well, but I think it was simpler than that - simply the best outcome compared to other opening bids; right mix of offence/defence. Don't know how scientific it was as I havent read the original |pg|| mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p|nt|athene: 4@D could be keycard in clubs|pg|| nt|athene: in which case 5@D is looking for the @SK|pg|| mb|5N|mb|p|nt|athene: sometimes you get these auctions where both players think they are the one bidding blackwood |pg|| nt|athene: but i am sure NS know whether it is 4@D or 4NT which is actually blackwood :)|pg|| nt|athene: ah, sorry, 4NT is not the right response for 4@D being RKCB|pg|| mb|6C|mb|p|nt|athene: ok so north took control, found the three aces, now he wants the @SK for 7|pg|| nt|athene: or something useful extra|pg|| nt|athene: 7@C is a very interesting exercise in percentages|pg|| mb|7C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: i don't expeect this to make on a trump lead|pg|| nt|Turbin: I counted 25 per cent (without seeing opps cards)|pg|| nt|athene: on a small trump lead do you rise with the ace so you can ruff two diamonds without losing to the @C10?|pg|| nt|Turbin: It needs diamond finesse and @S finesse or squeeze @H-@S|pg|| nt|davisbiz: IMonaco have had big losses on this board and 30; they bid the grand but did not make it|pg|| nt|athene: yes, i have to say, unless there are hidden meanings to the auction, i don't see how south can justifiably bid 7@C here|pg|| nt|athene: if he is going to bid 7 why not just do it over 5@D?|pg|| nt|athene: if south bid a very slow 6@C, north surely can't possibly bid 7|pg|| pc|dT|nt|athene: sorry i don't see how *north* can justifiably bid 7|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dK|nt|athene: basically 5nt says "can we make 7?" and 6@C says "no"|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| nt|athene: but a slow 6@C says "well.... no, but maybe yes"|pg|| nt|athene: so how can north raise that?|pg|| nt|davisbiz: that is the way you or I would play it; maybe it was the other way round KCB after all but even then....|pg|| nt|vugraphzdc: E called director|pg|| nt|athene: now with the second diamond trick declarer has a much easier time|pg|| nt|athene: south does have no key king BUT he has a vital third club and good spades|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|athene: so he has exactly what a "slow 6@C" would show|pg|| pc|d4|pc|h3|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d3|pc|c5|pc|d7|pg|| nt|athene: sorry to sound cynical but i would be calling the director for sure if 6@C was bid slowly here|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h9|pg|| pc|h7|pc|s5|pc|c6|pc|h4|pg|| nt|athene: on the other hand EW aren't allowed to take a "two-way shot"|pg|| mc|12|nt|athene: and let the result stand if 7@C fails but appeal if it makes|pg|| nt|athene: they have to decide right away whether they are satisfied or not|pg|| nt|athene: declarer took a reasonable line given the lead but loses to the @C10 on a trump promotion|pg|| pg|| qx|o32|st||md|2S983HQ84D543CJ654,SAJ752H6DKJ72CAQT,SQT6HAT975DAT9C92,SK4HKJ32DQ86CK873|sv|e|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Tez: i belive Bessis's line was better|pg|| pc|h4|nt|Tez: my spectators made 7..all|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d9|pc|d8|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pg|| mc|10|nt|Tez: ty all..bye|pg|| nt|Tez: ty for helping:)|pg|| nt|Aurora: Thanks to all Commentators, operators and kibitzes. See you in around 1 hour for another session: http://livebridge.net/bbo/session.php?eventid=1024&sessionid=27|pg|| nt|Aurora: Running scores: http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=1020&qshowflag=1|pg|| pg|| qx|c32|st||md|2S983HQ84D543CJ654,SAJ752H6DKJ72CAQT,SQT6HAT975DAT9C92,SK4HKJ32DQ86CK873|sv|e|nt|davisbiz: I wonder if this was the best line - the diamond lead seemed to make it easier but in fact led declarer astray trying to ruff his heart rather than deciding on the spades|pg|| nt|athene: i assume this is all getting turned over to the lawyers now :)|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|davisbiz: Will be interesting to see how many bid and make the grand|pg|| pc|h4|nt|Authau: Last board, thx Lucijana our great Operator, thx to the Commentators and the Kibs for watching|pg|| nt|Aurora: Running scores: http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=1020&qshowflag=1|pg|| nt|Aurora: Thanks to all Commentators, operators and kibitzes. See you in around 1 hour for another session: http://livebridge.net/bbo/session.php?eventid=1024&sessionid=27|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| nt|athene: as long as declarer doesn't play the @HJ on the second round of the suit, he will be fine|pg|| nt|Turbin: Grazie Aurora; Grazie Lucjiana (the Vugrapher). Grazie Kibitzers :)|pg|| nt|vugraphzdc: you all wlc.bye|pg|| pc|h5|nt|Turbin: Ciao William and Jonathan :)|pg|| nt|athene: this is the smallest outstanding heart so east can duck it in safety|pg|| pc|h3|nt|davisbiz: Bulgaria seem to have bid and made 7NT on 31 which seems impossible on 9H lead|pg|| pc|h8|pc|s2|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|s5|pc|h7|pc|hK|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|d4|pc|s7|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|d9|pg|| pc|d6|pc|c4|pc|dK|pc|dT|pg|| mc|10|nt|athene: 7NT is indeed a tall order|pg|| nt|athene: ok thanks all|pg|| nt|davisbiz: 9H promotes the 7 as a menace in North but that only brings it to 12 max|pg|| nt|davisbiz: In the other room N played to ruff out spades but got over-ruffed on the third spade after drawing two trumps |pg|| nt|davisbiz: Been veryinteresting thanks all|pg|| nt|Aurora: Running scores: http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=1020&qshowflag=1|pg|| nt|Aurora: Thanks to all Commentators, operators and kibitzes. See you in around 1 hour for another session: http://livebridge.net/bbo/session.php?eventid=1024&sessionid=27|pg|| pg||